Who said anything about utopias? I’m talking about states that went from feudal colonial hellholes to industrial powers with raising standards of living
China, the Soviet Union, Cuba, Allende’s Chile, Burkina Faso, Vietnam, all of them achieved an explosion of prosperity that required capitalist states to engage in war, genocide, terrorism and blockades to contain their demonstration effect
What you THINK is irrelevant, it’s an undeniable fact all those countries experienced an incredible explosion of development and raising standards of living compared to what they had before and after US intervention experienced mass death, crashes and falling life expectancy
Also in what universe is China and Vietnam not prosperous? They experienced the greatest decrease of poverty in human history, are you ok?
Damn, and all you have is a busted wiki article filled with debunked claims and contradictory sources by anti-communist think tanks
Again the curse of being a correct Tankie who has to deal with chuds; you people never know wtf you’re talking about, and have to rely on fabrications and long dedunked propaganda to back unserious arguments that you likely picked up from reddit
have we done Marxism right yet?
Yes plenty of times, that’s why the US empire has to rely on war and coups
where are these utopias?
Who said anything about utopias? I’m talking about states that went from feudal colonial hellholes to industrial powers with raising standards of living
China, the Soviet Union, Cuba, Allende’s Chile, Burkina Faso, Vietnam, all of them achieved an explosion of prosperity that required capitalist states to engage in war, genocide, terrorism and blockades to contain their demonstration effect
I don’t really think of those countries when I think of prosperity
What you THINK is irrelevant, it’s an undeniable fact all those countries experienced an incredible explosion of development and raising standards of living compared to what they had before and after US intervention experienced mass death, crashes and falling life expectancy
Also in what universe is China and Vietnam not prosperous? They experienced the greatest decrease of poverty in human history, are you ok?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine
Literally the last famine in Chinese history, when before they were regular and far more severe occurrences
Meanwhile let’s see what actual scientific studies about the time period say: An exploration of China’s mortality decline under Mao: A provincial analysis, 1950–80 (study) well, well, well that sure sucks for you
Damn, and all you have is a busted wiki article filled with debunked claims and contradictory sources by anti-communist think tanks
Again the curse of being a correct Tankie who has to deal with chuds; you people never know wtf you’re talking about, and have to rely on fabrications and long dedunked propaganda to back unserious arguments that you likely picked up from reddit
You got to do better
who’s “we”
ask cyborgmarx
i’m asking you
I have no idea, he’s the one who said it
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where?
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like China is a great place to live? seems kinda rough ; like the states
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