In addition to second-degree murder, Mangione will be tried in state court on two counts of criminal possession of a weapon in the second degree, four counts of criminal possession of a weapon in the third degree, one count of criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth degree and one count of criminal possession of a forged instrument in the second degree.
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/16/us/luigi-mangione-ny-court-hearing
https://abcnews.go.com/US/luigi-mangione-returns-court-1st-time-5-months/story?id=125617908
https://www.commondreams.org/news/luigi-mangione-terrorism-charges
Keeping my fingers crossed for some good old fashioned jury nullification.
One gun in a backpack? That’s 300 crimes, sorry bro.
“The defendant’s targeted killing of one individual – although abhorrent and despicable – is not ‘comparable,’” Carro wrote on Mangione.
what ever happened to innocent until proven guilty
Dropped it because it was 100% going to spoil the entire jury trial and get him off. Not sure this is going to be enough for a jury to get him, but it’ll help the prosecutor’s case at least.
Yeah, some comrades of mine charged with terrorism (different jurisdiction but works similarly) experienced the same thing, the threshold for terrorism in most places is extremely high so anyone charging anyone with terrorism for non terrorism is really shooting themselves in the foot, especially since it’s normally done against people who are already politically sympathetic in terms of how the jury is likely to see them.
of course they’ll just get him for regular murder charges, but how embarrassing they tried to get him on terrorism, lmao
Has this guy ever had a bad picture taken of him?
I know dudes who lookmaxx like it’s a full time job- exhaustive daily grooming/exercise routines using the most expensive products they can afford, and here comes Luigi rolling out of a prison bed just effortlessly mogging them.
There was an article saying before he’s such a hero to the other prisoners, they’ve been doing his makeover, tidying up his haircut, eyebrows etc before he goes to court. Actually quite wholesome.
not being a pedant here but they aren’t prisoners. it’s jail. most are awaiting trial or doing short time (under a year).
being a full blown folk hero likely has him protected by dozens of people (there’s already a surprising amount of solidarity at the level of the local jail, it deteriorates as you move into DOC (prison))
it helps that supposedly he is kind and generous and shares his commissary. it’s amazing what some ramen will do to build loyalty
i bet even the guards, who at rikers are known to be brutal, sadistic, and murderous, are probably split on their opinion of him and that makes him untouchable by them.
he seems like he’s keeping his mouth shut. i’m sure at least one informant has been offered something by the NYPD to get him to talk but i bet for every 1 there are 3 jailhouse lawyer types that protect him from even those angles of attack
Thank you I appreciate the insight into the American carceral system.
I would in lightest terms put forward it is pedantry, prisoner is a word used internationally, has informal uses and predates the existence of the US as a nation state.
He’s a political prisoner, and everyone unjustly bound by the US carceral state is a prisoner, be they in a physical jail, prison, detention camp, involuntary hold, on bail, parole etc.
Idk, at least here “prisoner” refers to pre-trial/unconvicted prisoners too. I’ve only been to pre trial/sentence prisons (never been convicted, prisons were mixed but leaned heavily pre trial/pre sentence) and everyone there called themselves prisoners.
He’s a dreamboat
Awoooooga. May I add Hummina Hummina Bazooing.
Unrivaled face card
they literally are incapable of making him not hot
Why did they put this innocent guy up there on the stand, it makes no sense.
“second degree” murder is what’s happening to me right now as I die laughing. How could you get more premeditated than this?
Fingers crossed that a jury still acquits despite this fuckery.
Apparently FIrst Degree Murder in New York only applies when killing cops, public servants, judges and so on, killing while serving a life sentence, killing as a terrorist act, and in a few other edge cases. Premediatet murder is all “just” second degree murder in NY
So even if he did it, he’s technically not guilty of “second degree” murder?
Unless he accidentally or impulsively stalked and killed the CEO on a spur of the moment, lol
It’d be really funny if the defense somehow uses the false pre-meditation evidence to get the jury to not-guilty the 2nd degree murder charges.
Not sure how that would even work if they did but damn.
remember those “not guilty” OJ shirts. we need one in the same format for this dude lol.
Feel like the lack of reporting around his court proceedings is because they know people will show up to his trial in support of him if they remind the public when and where it’s happening.
