In addition to second-degree murder, Mangione will be tried in state court on two counts of criminal possession of a weapon in the second degree, four counts of criminal possession of a weapon in the third degree, one count of criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth degree and one count of criminal possession of a forged instrument in the second degree.
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/16/us/luigi-mangione-ny-court-hearing
https://abcnews.go.com/US/luigi-mangione-returns-court-1st-time-5-months/story?id=125617908
https://www.commondreams.org/news/luigi-mangione-terrorism-charges
There was an article saying before he’s such a hero to the other prisoners, they’ve been doing his makeover, tidying up his haircut, eyebrows etc before he goes to court. Actually quite wholesome.
not being a pedant here but they aren’t prisoners. it’s jail. most are awaiting trial or doing short time (under a year).
being a full blown folk hero likely has him protected by dozens of people (there’s already a surprising amount of solidarity at the level of the local jail, it deteriorates as you move into DOC (prison))
it helps that supposedly he is kind and generous and shares his commissary. it’s amazing what some ramen will do to build loyalty
i bet even the guards, who at rikers are known to be brutal, sadistic, and murderous, are probably split on their opinion of him and that makes him untouchable by them.
he seems like he’s keeping his mouth shut. i’m sure at least one informant has been offered something by the NYPD to get him to talk but i bet for every 1 there are 3 jailhouse lawyer types that protect him from even those angles of attack
Thank you I appreciate the insight into the American carceral system.
I would in lightest terms put forward it is pedantry, prisoner is a word used internationally, has informal uses and predates the existence of the US as a nation state.
He’s a political prisoner, and everyone unjustly bound by the US carceral state is a prisoner, be they in a physical jail, prison, detention camp, involuntary hold, on bail, parole etc.
yeah i think i was just using that as a chance to bring up some personal experience. and I agree, there are a surprisingly large amount of political prisoners in the system these days thanks to the expansion of the criminal code.
the libertarians used to (i guess the principled ones still) have a saying that the average American commits up to 3 felonies a day and doesn’t even realize it because they are so banal.
Idk, at least here “prisoner” refers to pre-trial/unconvicted prisoners too. I’ve only been to pre trial/sentence prisons (never been convicted, prisons were mixed but leaned heavily pre trial/pre sentence) and everyone there called themselves prisoners.
yeah that’s true. my immediate circle were all punk anarchists (and homeless lefties, a few russian guys) so we definitely did. and were hyper aware of how easily it could all be turned into an elimination camp