• newacctidk [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    Michael S. Judge compared Hitler to a shaman ritualistically taking in and purifying the perceived evils and expelling them. He was talking about what the esoteric Nazis thought, but I think it applies to all of Europe. Europe let the Nazis be their “oopsy daisy” and now they can act like they broke from it. The fascists became this signifier to absolve responsibility

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    2 months ago

    Evergreen tweet. It’s been rattling around in my head for the past couple of years and occassionally I will almost say it out loud at my work, before I realize that these people are so brainbroken that they don’t know anything

  • IHave69XiBucks@lemmygrad.ml
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    I get it the world sucks right now, but lets not forget about the USSR. WW2 was a defeat for fascism. It set back their movement and forced them to be much more discrete. That’s where liberalism came from. And much of the world was spared from them because of the USSR. Do we think the DPRK, China, Vietnam, Iran, or any other country that opposes US imperialism today would exist as it does if not for the USSR?

    Fascism was not wiped from the earth during WW2, but the USSR bought us TIME. Time for other socialist projects to grow. Time for the USA to weaken. It set the fascist movement back DECADES. They were forced to focus on improving the material conditions of their people, and put on a friendly face because if they went mask off their people would see the USSR doing better, and overthrow them. So many countries had a chance to have anti-colonial movements because of this extra time.

    Whether it had been Germany, or the USA if fascism had been allowed to grow unchallenged in the 40s-50s most of the world would have been defencless against it. Even as we speak Russia which is basically the rotting corpse of the USSR is giving the USA a hard time. Distracting it, and embarrassing it.

    We need to remember just how bad things could have been, and be grateful for the red army that it’s not that way. Then we need to finish the job.

    What Lenin did all those decades ago is the sole reason that half the world doesnt look like Gaza right now.

    Here’s a stat i like to remind people of. 19.5% or so of the current world population lives in a socialist country. Nearly 1/5th of every human alive lives in a socialist nation. I think we forget that sometimes. Since the founding of the USSR that number has been trending up over time. It might not be the instantaneous world revolution of our dreams, but we are getting there.

  • DogThatWentGorp [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    Playing Vic3 lately (gamer cringe IK) and reading about the various European countries and political figures as I go along makes this so much more apparent too.

    If there were any justice in the world the French and the British especially would be just as vilified for the shit they did mere decades before (and continued to do after).

    And that’s putting aside what the Spanish Dutch and Belgians also did to the rest of the world.

    Like fuccckkkkkkkk. And that’s barely a deep cut into history! Its surface level stuff. Hitler is like a lightning rod that protects European countries from overdue criticism.

    • I know this is the point of Landa’s book (the apprentice’s sorcerer) but it was someone else that I’ve forgotten that I read pointing this out. But in the early years of the Nazis, the shock and horror was they were doing these policies (genocide, racial caste systems, etc.) in Europe to fellow Europeans. Good civilized Liberal nations like France and Britain knew that that belongs in the colonies and not Europe.

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    I watched a Jacob Geller video just now that talked about the Nuremberg trials; apparently they explicitly forbade tu quoque as defense because…like yeah, the US, the UK and France were all monstrous in the present day and committing similar atrocities as the Nazis.

    For reference, France was conducting nuclear tests in Algeria between 1960 and 1962 and had planted more mines than the entire population of Algeria, and this is the stuff they’d done after ww2, never mind the stuff they did prior and during. African troops had helped free the French from the Nazis, but putting aside the shameful display of not allowing them to parade through France after helping liberate them, they went on to deny them the pensions they’d earned and then killed those of them who protested it in their African colonies; they killed African troops who saved them from speaking German and just being a nation of toadying manservants. Many, many decades later, France’s current president Macron would say of Africa that gratitude was a disease of which Africans weren’t afflicted with. Some articles on Macron’s views:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn4xej8n7wxo

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/dec/20/emmanuel-macron-swears-amid-furious-exchange-with-cyclone-hit-mayotte-islanders

    And the reddit post that helped me find the first article and made me wish I could telepathically bash people with a psychic mallet (warning, be prepared to read some of the stupidest posts you’ve ever seen):

    https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/1hvpgiw/frances_president_emmanuel_macron_accused_of/

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    And they don’t ask where they got their inspiration from. Thats why you see libs justify colonialism or imperialism on some white man’s burden tip. People really whitewash history and its been effective.