• pjwestin@lemmy.world
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    I love many Star Trek movies, but the big screen is not important to the franchise, and it’s best work has always been on the small screen.

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    Star Trek tends to suck on the big screen because instead of relatable sci-fi we get action scenes and explosions. It’s not the same.

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    It’s worth noting that the last time I heard Ben Stiller talking Trek - five years ago on the official podcast - he made it pretty clear that he was a TOS fan, and hadn’t really seen anything else.

    Nothing wrong with that at all, but relevant IMO.

    Also, he definitely doesn’t actually have a pitch.

    …they asked him “Do you have any Star Trek pitches?” He promptly replied, “Yeah, let’s do it.”

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      Christ… TOS is the worst of them for like the first 6 shows or something. Uncultured swine.

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        What’s wrong with it? It’s very much a product of its time, but it’s still serviceable.

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          Just the acting, the writing, and the effects mostly. Otherwise, not so bad.

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      I’m sorry if that was a joke that went over my head, but I really don’t get the love for The Orville.

      The first season was kinda good in a temporary sci-fi wasteland. But the later seasons were mostly cringey teenage angst forced drama with some of the most unsymphatetic characters (e.g. the doctor lady and sons). Attempting to reach Capt. Picard levels of depth in their arguments and sophistication but falling short by a landslide.

      The one good moment I can remember about it is the joke about the character being off-center on the viewscreen. Heck, I even prefer Discovery over most of it.

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        The Orville isn’t Trek. It’s Seth MacFarlane comedy with some respectable drama. When he handed the USB drive with Billy Joel on it to his alien fascist girlfriend I teared up. Love is love, man.

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      The Orville isn’t “big screen.” What we need is a sequel to Galaxy Quest.

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    Hasn’t basically every star trek movie been kinda bad?

    iMO the IP does better when it has time to go slow.

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      Well this is a take I can’t believe is being upvoted…

      To answer your question, no every movie has been good. I’m sure if they made a Section 31 movie it would be good too but they never actually made it so we’ll never know.

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        I haven’t seen every Star Trek movie but the ones I’ve seen have been pretty bad.

        I’m here for the philosophy and the diplomacy, the movies always feel like they are made for a different audience.

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          Movie Star Trek is different from TV Star Trek. Except for Insurrection which is just a 2 part episode in a movie trench coat. And probably Section 31 but I don’t plan to watch that and find out.

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      The 2009 film was really fucking good IMO. It’s what got me interested in the series to begin with.

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        To each their own haha. The 2009 movie was the first ST movie I ever saw and I was not a fan.

        FWIW, I mostly enjoy TOS, TNG and DS9. Not a star wars fan at all. To me the movie felt too much like star wars. It wasn’t dry enough and didn’t feel anything like a televised stage play lmao.

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          Well I was a huge Star Wars fan at the time (stopped caring after Disney ruined the franchise with excessive content bloat), so that might explain it haha

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    If you could make a movie that stays true to the idea of Star Trek while still maintaining broad enough appeal to reach a wider audience, sure.

    I believe, to this day, that still has yet to be done. Without the broad appeal it’s better to just do the show, and without the ideals of Star Trek… it’s just another generic sci-fi action movie.

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      I mean, at this point I’m willing to give Ben Stiller the benefit of the doubt on all sorts of things.

      I don’t think he needs the benefit of the doubt on “reach a broad audience” in the first place, because… well, it’s Ben Stiller. I mean on the Star Trek ideals thing.

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        IDK, Ben Stiller made Severance, which is pretty thoughtful, philosophical sci-fi. He’s got the chops and the interest in making something, the idea leaves me cautiously optimistic.