Inspired by another question on this community about “the first time you drank alcohol”, so I was just feeling like I’m the odd one out here.

I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don’t do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess…) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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    Yes, in short, because I like them.

    For better or worse, booze is a big part of British socialising culture, so it’s unusual if someone my age (mid thirties millennial) has never drank, but a couple of my mates have gone tee total in recent years.

    Why do I still do it? Beers with your mates whilst enjoying a beer garden or watching the footie is a pretty enjoyable way to pass the time. I’m also a bit of a nerd with it all so I love trying new beers, there’s been a huge renaissance around beer variety over the past decade-ish, so there’s always something new to try. I’ve gotten more into wine and cocktails in recent years too, and there’s a rich well of variety in there to experience too.

    Smoking tobacco I generally avoid now, it’s nice to have the odd one with a beer but I’ll probably only have a few a year now. I regularly smoked last in my 20s. I occasionally have ended up with a vape in my pocket after a big night out, but I don’t really like them much flavour wise.

    Weed is something I still enjoy, it helps me clear my head, relax, and kinda be more present with whatever activity I’m engaging in, if I’m smoking with mates it can often be a pretty hilarious time. However, it’s easy for me to slip into habitual use with it especially though, I don’t really seem to get much in the way of acute negative effects beyond tolerance, so I try to be mindful to keep it in check these days. I’ll probably try and relegate it to a treat for when I visit somewhere like Amsterdam in the coming years given the downsides of smoking (I’ve got a vape, but I basically never choose it).

    FWIW I’ve heard that Gen Z is differing their consumption habits significantly from previous generations. Less drinking alcohol in general, preferring non-smokeable forms of tobacco/weed.

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    There doesn’t appear to be too many bad examples in here, so allow me.

    I smoked cigarettes for a long time and, at 59, got to experience lung cancer. I’m currently 62 and still dealing with it. I’d probably be dead now if the mass in my lung hadn’t adhered to the back of my chest cavity and eroded into one of my ribs causing a ridiculous amount of pain. Lung cancer usually goes undetected until it spreads to other places, like the brain, so I guess I got lucky. It did pop up on an adrenal gland, but we nuked that one too. I have another small mass in my other lung that will probably have to be radiated too. I’m also dealing with emphysema and a mouth half full of fucked up teeth. (So glamorous!)

    Having no wind in my sails and trying to talk around and eat with both upper and lower partials just sucks all around. I’m only 62, but I feel like I’m 82, and I only have myself to blame.

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      I understand the taking responsibility part, but I think you can spare a little blame for the companies who sold those products knowing full well how addictive and dangerous they are.

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    I’ve never smoked and I don’t ever plan to (it can lessen the effect of HRT) but I do drink alcohol occasionally. Meaning I drink maybe one cocktail or longdrink every two or three months.

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    No. I don’t want cancer, so i don’t smoke. I also was an alco, so I’m recovered now and don’t want to go back to that. I’m sure my liver agrees with my decision.

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      I don’t smoke or drink. These days, not sure if helps against cancer, since everything seems to give you cancer these days and it’s just a matter of which cancer wins.

      I would never smoke again because how absolutely disgusting it is. I don’t think many smokers realise how rancid their breath and clothes smell. Or they just hang out with other smokers and it doesn’t matter. The other part is that smokers are just littering and society just accepted that smokers don’t care and they have to throw their garbage somewhere.

      Drinking is similar, once you stop for a while you realise that it’s not very good, and the whole culture around it is weird. I never realised how much you can weird people out by not drinking, because they have questions: why? But why tho? You can still drive after a glass. This wine is really good tho. This schnapps is very smooth. People will try to get you to drink and i thought about just telling people that i was an alcoholic, just so i don’t have to explain myself all the time for something i don’t do.

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    Elder millennial. I think we were the last gen where cigarettes, booze, and drugs were seen as “cool”. Younger people seemed to have figured it out early how much of a fucking waste of time and money all three are.

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    I’m the older end of Gen X, and have never smoked. The major factor in starting is peer pressure and I didn’t have any peers around me at the critical time who did. My family didn’t either.

    I seldom drink alcohol and then I have only ever enjoyed cider - not beer, wine or spirits. This is just a matter of the taste for me. I simply don’t like it.

    As a kid, I had had grape juice and I had heard adults enthusing about wine as usual and I had a idea what it must taste like.

    If you imagine a taste/mouthfeel spectrum with wine at one end and grape juice in the middle, what I imagined wine to taste like was pretty much at the opposite end of that spectrum to what it actually tastes like. I had one mouthful and had no desire for any more at all. I have obviously tried wine and the rest at various times since, but my opinion is basically the same.

    With cider, I’ll seldom have more that a pint or two a month these days.

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    I like to get a little intoxicated and find the different headspaces the drugs provides to be very relaxing and fun. That said, I get a really good calming buzz from a cup of coffee and some particular candy (vespebol) these days.

    I used to drink a lot, mostly because it was fun and relaxing to start, then it became habitual. I drink way less now, I like the buzz and mindset I get from a few beers, but I no longer need the escape that drunkenness provides and I’ve grown to really dislike it. Stopped drinking for a little while, then eased back into it and experimented with it for a few years. I found that for me the cost of drinking increases exponentially per unit and the benefits flattens and become costs after a few units now.

    I only have tobacco when someone has rolled a joint with it. Had my first while cigarette at 29, I got a really good nicotine shock from it, which I loved, but my lungs hurt for days afterwards so I’m staying away from tobacco, never tried snus either even though it’s pretty huge around here.

    Don’t really smoke much weed either, but I’ll have a puff if someone is offering. I like the buz and calmness it brings.

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        Fast food is still mostly food. Cigarettes are pure poison and alcohol has negligible nutritional value (and I doubt that’s why anyone is buying it). You have a point but you’re being obtuse about it.

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          I’m not being obtuse about it.

          If you want to be supercilious about not consuming poison (specifically alcohol here) which can be responsibly consumed to some limited personal / social benefit, it is on the same footing as fast food.

          “I don’t ingest poison“ from somebody with a BMI of 50 is hypocritical yum yucking and isn’t a good look.

          Edit:

          Wait. Let’s do this the honest way instead.

          OPs comment rubs me the wrong way because after my second kid was born I went through some shit and had a period of alcohol dependence. That was and is not always easy to manage if you don’t have an interest in abstinence. It’s easy to judge people for ingesting poison, which is objectively true, but it is off-putting to get a lesson on the virtues of health from people who can’t put down the controller, or the sandwich, or the vape.

          Yeah I read too much into it and knee jerked. OP is phrased in a way that is sneakily general and impersonal using passive voice which may or may not have been intentional, but it read as high and mighty to me and that is irksome when I can remember a period of every day battles with the stuff.

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    I started smoking and drinking at 12 because I thought it would make me look cool and developed a pretty bad drinking habit in high school and college. After college it got worse and there were some severe consequences. Finally got sober at 30. I’d been trying to quit smoking for years but would always light up when I’d had a few beers and since that was pretty much all the time, I wasn’t able to quit smoking until I quit drinking.

    I haven’t touched either in almost 27 years and I’m so much better off for it.

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    Smoking no, never. I was a heavy drinker in my teens and 20s, gave that up because I was getting fat (I’m vain, deal with it!). At that time, I started taking MDMA and speed. It was the late 90s, so it was a pretty standard for the rave and alternative scenes at the time. Gave that up when I got Menieres disease in my early 40s. Now I have one drink once or twice a month, but mostly drink plain old water.

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    I don’t think this is unusual for your generation. GenZ seems risk adverse. It is surprising that you all drive before age 18. Many won’t actually call somebody or someplace using your voice.

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      Lol I still don’t have a license, driving age is 16 where I live, I’m like 25-ish (not the exact age, obfuscated for privacy reasons).

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      I understand if you don’t for religious reasons but both only kill you if done to excess. Yes, they’re not healthy things to do but in moderation there’s often little harm done. Too much water will literally kill you. My personal view is that we’re all gonna die anyway, the world’s an absolute mess so I might aswell enjoy the bits I can

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        but both only kill you if done to excess.

        You’d think so but nope! According to WHO (and every other relevant organization), relevant risks increase from the first drop of alcohol, so while smaller amounts are less dangerous even moderate consumption will still literally kill you. Technically moderate consumption has some minor health benefits, but those are canceled out by the risks.

        while the greatest risks are seen with heavy long-term use, even low alcohol consumption (defined as less than one drink per day) or moderate consumption (up to two drinks per day for men, and one drink per day for women because they absorb and metabolize it differently) can increase cancer risk. Among women, light drinkers have a four percent increased risk of[breast cancer, while moderate drinkers have a 23 percent increased risk of the disease.

        Apparently alcohol kills about 170k+ people a year and causes millions of ER visits in America alone through various mechanisms (this data is an underestimate).

        PS: I chose alcohol because it’s the more controversial of the two, but everything I said here also applies to smoking.

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            Well, neither of them extend your average lifespan. You might get hit by lightning before that becomes particularly relevant. But even then, you have a higher chance of surviving, if your body is healthy.

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    Smoking: never, it smells awefull.

    Drinking: yes, but not regularly and never alone. Most of the time in social situations and when partying.

    Drugs: never.

    Gambling: I play gacha games.