I am here to generate productive discussion around hot-button issues which surround the left. I have no intent on starting undue drama or struggle sessions.
What gave you the impression that these were “hot button issues” worthy of bringing up in discussion, and the way you have been? Productive discussion is handled from a focus on unity, not splitting and divisiveness. I understand that Hexbear is a shitposting site and not a communist party, but that makes it even more counterproductive to try to spark a struggle sesh on purpose.
I have done nothing but called on the Hexbear community to get together to form a collective line on these hot button issues and unite under democratic centralism for the benefit of the proletariat and Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution to syndicate a new society and to unite the party, build the collectives, and build the party.
Hexbear isn’t demcent. We have anarchists, Marxist-Leninists, and more. Hexbear is not a party. Hexbear is a shitposting site for leftists, not a replacement for organizing in real life. It’s a third space for leftists to go to to hang out and not need to take everything so seriously, while also not needing to deal with the incessant liberalism on the mainstream English-speaking internet.
If you want to develop a cohesive line, then join a party.
If you were actually familiar with Hexbear like you claimed, then you’d know how many people here don’t like Chinese reform. Especially in the news mega, lots of criticism of China’s market policies. You’re allowed to criticize China, lots of people do, but then other people are going to have their say about what they think of your criticisms, and this could be an interesting and informative discussion or it could be you yelling at everyone they are revisionists, but that’s up to you.
I am not on a vendetta. I am actively working for the education of the proletariat and dissemination of the revolutionary framework of Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, principally Maoism.
“Dengism” is not a thing. Deng Xiaoping Theory is Marxism-Leninism applied to the conditions of the PRC at the time Deng was in power, adapting to the fundamental errors made by the Gang of Four. Just as Mao Zedong Thought was Marxism-Leninism applied to the conditions of the PRC under Mao, Deng necessarily was dealing with different circumstances. Now that the PRC is developing Socialism with Chinese Characteristics in a New Era, Xi Jinping Thought is now Marxism-Leninism applied to the PRC’s present conditions.
There is no “Dengism.” Not every leader needs an “ism” attached to their name. The reason you see support for Deng’s reforms is the same as elsewhere, Hexbear has a large number of Marxist-Leninists, who uphold the PRC as AES.
Good for you on getting organized. You’d do well to focus more on it than trying to start struggle sessions on a niche communist shitposting site.
Maoism certainly exists, along with contentions on how universal certain aspects of Mao’s theoretical and practical advancements are, or if they are localized to the PRC. As an example, I think the Mass Line is a fantastic advancement on DemCent, but I am skeptical of the universality of Protracted People’s War.
Dengism, on the other hand, does not exist. I uphold Deng Xiaoping Theory as MLs tend to, as Marxism-Leninism of the PRC under Deng. I don’t uphold “Stalinism” as a thing, Stalin was a Marxist-Leninist. “Ism” is used for people who have made universal advancements on Marxism, the degree to which these advancements are accepted as universal on Marxism is irrelevant. There are no people who call themselves “Marxist-Leninist-Dengist” or “Marxist-Leninist-Maoist-Dengist.”
Hmm true, he hasn’t hit @leftcompride@hexbear.net levels of annoying just yet, maybe I’ll sit on it for an hour or two and do some shopping and come back to see how the tykes are getting along.
That manifesto is nearly 200,000 words long, to the point it had to be split in several books, that seems a bit unwieldy. More than 100 pages are spent talking about history and how other socialists that are wrong, that really doesn’t feel like it belongs in a manifesto. I don’t think this kind of manifesto is particularly useful, who is it going to convince to join your party?
“anarchist organizations like the Industrial Workers of the World (IWW) or anti-fascist groups, can be in strategic unity with communist parties”
Political alliances are a clear violation of the IWW constitution and founding principles, I don’t think that will ever happen.
“The IWW is a syndicalist organization that favors proletarian unity and militant unionism, but also opposes political struggle and the formation of a vanguard party.”
The IWW doesn’t describe itself as syndicalist, and basically none of the membership would refer to it that way, it’s historians that assigned the label. Not strictly wrong, but just a little weird. That last bit isn’t really the full truth, the IWW is opposed to a vanguard party and political struggle using it’s name, but rather has a strong culture of dual membership. The IWW opposes vanguard parties the same way a building opposes cars: they aren’t the same thing, and don’t have exactly the same purpose. An FW would do political struggle through a political party, direct action through a local anti-fascist group, and even engage in business union organizing, and your branch/IU would think you an amazing comrade for it. It’s about insulating the brand and organization from other issues to keep the focus on our thing: industrial socialism.
^tl;dr A union isn’t a vanguard party, and shouldn’t be.
Unlike certain other socialist organizations, being a member of a Marxist-Leninist demcent party won’t stop or restrict from doing anything in the IWW. (Being a paid party official is a little different though, understandably).
Anyways, writing about the ToC and those two sentences is really all I have the energy for rn.
Then you wouldn’t just passive-aggressively post memes and cherrypick sentences within the responses you reply to to acknowledge, usually in the direction of interpersonal dramatics while ignoring substantive claims.
I am here to generate productive discussion around hot-button issues which surround the left. I have no intent on starting undue drama or struggle sessions.
What gave you the impression that these were “hot button issues” worthy of bringing up in discussion, and the way you have been? Productive discussion is handled from a focus on unity, not splitting and divisiveness. I understand that Hexbear is a shitposting site and not a communist party, but that makes it even more counterproductive to try to spark a struggle sesh on purpose.
I have done nothing but called on the Hexbear community to get together to form a collective line on these hot button issues and unite under democratic centralism for the benefit of the proletariat and Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution to syndicate a new society and to unite the party, build the collectives, and build the party.
It’s that simple.
Hexbear isn’t demcent. We have anarchists, Marxist-Leninists, and more. Hexbear is not a party. Hexbear is a shitposting site for leftists, not a replacement for organizing in real life. It’s a third space for leftists to go to to hang out and not need to take everything so seriously, while also not needing to deal with the incessant liberalism on the mainstream English-speaking internet.
If you want to develop a cohesive line, then join a party.
Firstly, if Hexbear is left-unity, how come I only see Dengites? Secondly, I AM THE PROCESS OF FORMING THE AMERICAN COMMUNIST PARTY (MAOIST).
If you were actually familiar with Hexbear like you claimed, then you’d know how many people here don’t like Chinese reform. Especially in the news mega, lots of criticism of China’s market policies. You’re allowed to criticize China, lots of people do, but then other people are going to have their say about what they think of your criticisms, and this could be an interesting and informative discussion or it could be you yelling at everyone they are revisionists, but that’s up to you.
Right… except that literally everyone in the post which is critical of Dengism are supportive of Deng.
Are these “anti-Dengists” just hiding or what?
“Has criticisms of the 90s reforms”≠ “Shares your particular ill-described vendetta”
I am not on a vendetta. I am actively working for the education of the proletariat and dissemination of the revolutionary framework of Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, principally Maoism.
“Dengism” is not a thing. Deng Xiaoping Theory is Marxism-Leninism applied to the conditions of the PRC at the time Deng was in power, adapting to the fundamental errors made by the Gang of Four. Just as Mao Zedong Thought was Marxism-Leninism applied to the conditions of the PRC under Mao, Deng necessarily was dealing with different circumstances. Now that the PRC is developing Socialism with Chinese Characteristics in a New Era, Xi Jinping Thought is now Marxism-Leninism applied to the PRC’s present conditions.
There is no “Dengism.” Not every leader needs an “ism” attached to their name. The reason you see support for Deng’s reforms is the same as elsewhere, Hexbear has a large number of Marxist-Leninists, who uphold the PRC as AES.
Good for you on getting organized. You’d do well to focus more on it than trying to start struggle sessions on a niche communist shitposting site.
Yes it is, lib. It’s called “Marxism-Leninism-Moo Dengism” and it’s dope af:
Hell yea
Next you’ll being saying there’s no such thing as Maoism.
Maoism certainly exists, along with contentions on how universal certain aspects of Mao’s theoretical and practical advancements are, or if they are localized to the PRC. As an example, I think the Mass Line is a fantastic advancement on DemCent, but I am skeptical of the universality of Protracted People’s War.
Dengism, on the other hand, does not exist. I uphold Deng Xiaoping Theory as MLs tend to, as Marxism-Leninism of the PRC under Deng. I don’t uphold “Stalinism” as a thing, Stalin was a Marxist-Leninist. “Ism” is used for people who have made universal advancements on Marxism, the degree to which these advancements are accepted as universal on Marxism is irrelevant. There are no people who call themselves “Marxist-Leninist-Dengist” or “Marxist-Leninist-Maoist-Dengist.”
cringe
there are better names than ACP for a US communist party
To be honest he’s starting to sound as annoying as the ACP hogs.
That said, it is an incredible gut-buster to say one is forming ACP(M)
Honestly, several tagline worthy moments here, lmao. ACP(M) is near the top tho
Yeah I’m throwing the
“Firstly, if Hexbear is left-unity, how come I only see Dengites? Secondly, I AM THE PROCESS OF FORMING THE AMERICAN COMMUNIST PARTY (MAOIST).”
Into the tag line list before I take old yeller here on a walk behind the barn.
He hasnt say bigoted shit to be fair, it is funny he wants to steal the acp name
Hmm true, he hasn’t hit @leftcompride@hexbear.net levels of annoying just yet, maybe I’ll sit on it for an hour or two and do some shopping and come back to see how the tykes are getting along.
This manifesto dictates I call it the American Communist Party (Maoist).
May I ask who wrote the manifesto? (I won’t be clicking on a google doc to find out)
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That manifesto is nearly 200,000 words long, to the point it had to be split in several books, that seems a bit unwieldy. More than 100 pages are spent talking about history and how other socialists that are wrong, that really doesn’t feel like it belongs in a manifesto. I don’t think this kind of manifesto is particularly useful, who is it going to convince to join your party?
“anarchist organizations like the Industrial Workers of the World (IWW) or anti-fascist groups, can be in strategic unity with communist parties”
Political alliances are a clear violation of the IWW constitution and founding principles, I don’t think that will ever happen.
“The IWW is a syndicalist organization that favors proletarian unity and militant unionism, but also opposes political struggle and the formation of a vanguard party.”
The IWW doesn’t describe itself as syndicalist, and basically none of the membership would refer to it that way, it’s historians that assigned the label. Not strictly wrong, but just a little weird. That last bit isn’t really the full truth, the IWW is opposed to a vanguard party and political struggle using it’s name, but rather has a strong culture of dual membership. The IWW opposes vanguard parties the same way a building opposes cars: they aren’t the same thing, and don’t have exactly the same purpose. An FW would do political struggle through a political party, direct action through a local anti-fascist group, and even engage in business union organizing, and your branch/IU would think you an amazing comrade for it. It’s about insulating the brand and organization from other issues to keep the focus on our thing: industrial socialism.
^tl;dr A union isn’t a vanguard party, and shouldn’t be.
Unlike certain other socialist organizations, being a member of a Marxist-Leninist demcent party won’t stop or restrict from doing anything in the IWW. (Being a paid party official is a little different though, understandably).
Anyways, writing about the ToC and those two sentences is really all I have the energy for rn.
The Manifesto of the Communist Party was had an entire section refuting other nominal socialists.
I am calling for a full shutdown of the United States until we can figure out what the hell is going on.
This is a meme website
Hexbear is not that important
Then you wouldn’t just passive-aggressively post memes and cherrypick sentences within the responses you reply to to acknowledge, usually in the direction of interpersonal dramatics while ignoring substantive claims.