• Muinteoir_Saoirse [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    I like that you compare these two in a way that suggests you think they are the same, and that it is ridiculous for people to have different opinions of them despite them taking the same actions.

    It works really well as a humorous comparison, because as we all know, the Chinese communist party lost power, the socialist project was utterly dismantled, and the country was broken apart and ravaged by the West resulting in a massive drop in life expectancy, education, and housing, and a massive increase in poverty, unemployment, and alcoholism, just like what happened in the USSR. These are nearly identical situations.

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        Oh for sure, this is almost certainly Wisconcom, who has been making weird anti-revisionist screeds on lemmygrad across many accounts for literally years. He loves Hoxha and hates Deng, and if you get him upset he will “go thermonuclear” on us all.

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          What gave you the impression that these were “hot button issues” worthy of bringing up in discussion, and the way you have been? Productive discussion is handled from a focus on unity, not splitting and divisiveness. I understand that Hexbear is a shitposting site and not a communist party, but that makes it even more counterproductive to try to spark a struggle sesh on purpose.

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            I have done nothing but called on the Hexbear community to get together to form a collective line on these hot button issues and unite under democratic centralism for the benefit of the proletariat and Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution to syndicate a new society and to unite the party, build the collectives, and build the party.

            It’s that simple.

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              Hexbear isn’t demcent. We have anarchists, Marxist-Leninists, and more. Hexbear is not a party. Hexbear is a shitposting site for leftists, not a replacement for organizing in real life. It’s a third space for leftists to go to to hang out and not need to take everything so seriously, while also not needing to deal with the incessant liberalism on the mainstream English-speaking internet.

              If you want to develop a cohesive line, then join a party.

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                  If you were actually familiar with Hexbear like you claimed, then you’d know how many people here don’t like Chinese reform. Especially in the news mega, lots of criticism of China’s market policies. You’re allowed to criticize China, lots of people do, but then other people are going to have their say about what they think of your criticisms, and this could be an interesting and informative discussion or it could be you yelling at everyone they are revisionists, but that’s up to you.

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                  “Dengism” is not a thing. Deng Xiaoping Theory is Marxism-Leninism applied to the conditions of the PRC at the time Deng was in power, adapting to the fundamental errors made by the Gang of Four. Just as Mao Zedong Thought was Marxism-Leninism applied to the conditions of the PRC under Mao, Deng necessarily was dealing with different circumstances. Now that the PRC is developing Socialism with Chinese Characteristics in a New Era, Xi Jinping Thought is now Marxism-Leninism applied to the PRC’s present conditions.

                  There is no “Dengism.” Not every leader needs an “ism” attached to their name. The reason you see support for Deng’s reforms is the same as elsewhere, Hexbear has a large number of Marxist-Leninists, who uphold the PRC as AES.

                  Good for you on getting organized. You’d do well to focus more on it than trying to start struggle sessions on a niche communist shitposting site.

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          Then you wouldn’t just passive-aggressively post memes and cherrypick sentences within the responses you reply to to acknowledge, usually in the direction of interpersonal dramatics while ignoring substantive claims.