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i love how woke has almost become a seal of approval at this point
FULLY AUTOMATED LUXURY GAY SPACE COMMUNISM !!!
Whilst I disagree that it is or was gay (or straight, or bi, or whatever sexual orientation - as far as I can tell the community is just a slice of the broader world in that), I totally agree that the Free Software community has always been what some nowadays call “woke”.
It’s really just the “live and let live”, “don’t hurt your fellow human beings” and “share rather than hoard” principles of the community, that both make people share their work and their knowledge and be tolerant of others in those things (the intolerance is reserved for people who use the “wrong” editor or programming language!), which in the meanwhile the Identitarian Wars in the US ended up labeling “woke”, maybe because over there the politicians weaponizing such matters to avoid talking about Wealth Inequality couldn’t simply call it “Leftwing”.
Learning about open-source and GIMP in the early days and spiraling into searches about leather daddies made me a little gay.
The whole internet used to be woke, it was full of counterculture people, freaks and geeks looking for communities, the same people who were on BBSes the years before, it was a diverse group of weirdos on the fringes at the time.
I miss it still.
Not sure the whole internet was woke, the nazis and pedophiles have been here for quite a while too. But they were on the fringe and shunned by the larger internet culture until relatively recently. Trump started courting the votes of the worst side of the internet. Then the pandemic brought a bunch of “normies” online whose brains weren’t ready for the culture shock, and rather than accepting the freaks and geeks, they decided the nazis were the normal ones.
I think they always have been there and certainly not on the fringes.
Take this question about “stormfront” for instance from reddit nine years ago.
https://old.reddit.com/r/AskEurope/comments/45krzb/why_do_many_of_the_european_subreddits_seem_like/
This has been well before the pandemic and even before Trumps presidential bid. But also before corporate social media being dominant i remember being exposed to self identifying nazis in video games around the time when facebook was mostly farmville invitations.
Once the Nazis realized the power of corporate social media and its algorithms and the corporations realized the money they can make with peddling hate-speech, it became more present, but it always was there and certainly not shunned away to the fringes.
I miss the wild west days of the internet. Now it’s just instagram and facebook, with a lot of google sprinkled in there.
Dolphinsex.org: never forget.
In the early days the Internet was mainly people in STEM Universities and Science Institutes (plus a handful of Military geeks), and those kinds of people in my experience tend to be more liberal (in the traditional sense of “live and let live”, rather than the US politics sense) minded than average.
Pretty much everything good and decent is now “woke” lol. people say woke like it’s a bad thing but they’re just telling on themselves. proud to be woke
Much rather be woke than a sleeper.
There’s woke in being politically active and aware of social inequities and then there’s woke on capitalist social media which means basically nothing but attention-seeking virtue-signaling bullshit. You can be for one while calling out the other.
The latter is nothing more than a boogie man the anti-woke crowd is afraid of.
as someone who participates in the Arch forums/IRC etc…it’s been “woke and gay” for a long, long, time now. I mean shit if you don’t have your own pair of knee/thigh high socks are you even a real Arch user?
I was already woke and gay, but since I’ve moved to arch I’m trans and into anime.
how woke has almost become a seal of approval at this point
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Woke basically means having empathy. More specifically I’d say it’s trying to make things less unfair for groups that aren’t treated fairly.
No wonder the conservatives treat it like an insult.
Woke literally means aware of systemic injustice, right? I mean originally. And SJW literally means someone who will fight for social justice (equity).
These are all objectively good things.
Wake up sheeple! But dont be woke…
Same with hacker culture. Woke and Gay is the fertile ground in which creativity, mischief and awesomeness grows.
Hacker culture sometimes seems split down the middle between trans catgirls and right wing incels.
The Industry versus The Community
Our community is queer as fuck, and proud of being inclusive. The Industry sells all the software and services, with a layer of middle management and rock star types, smoothing over the queer as hell technical underbelly
Be gay. Do (cyber)crime.
In case you don’t know who she is, she’s the founder of Elementary OS
Boggles my mind at how many people hate gay/bi people. I’d kill to be bi, imagine getting twice the shots of meeting your ideal person. Sign me the fuck up.
Naw you just end up getting rejected twice as much ಥ_ಥ
Damn, it’s the same picture
It’s a result of American brainrot. Once the world cuts off their toxic culture we’ll be better off.
This reminds of that time we got a new sysadmin at one of my old jobs who was this young trans girl fresh out of college. She was outclassing the department lead left and right and he’d come to me everyday complaining about the “he-she” who was going to take his job and how he remembers when the world was “normal” and that’s why we need Trump and other aggrieved old white man nonsense.
He lasted only a few more weeks after it mysteriously came to HRs attention that he was a transphobic shithead. I hate it when bigots think I’m a safe space for their bullshit because I look like a fatter Kerry King from Slayer.
That didn’t even occur to me
This just makes me want to be even more woke and gay
I’m gonna wake up to gay porn on full blast every day and no one can stop me! Never gonna sleep again, I’ll be so woke!
Yassssss queen fuck it uppppppppp
The negative sentiment will grow in paid media articles because corporations start to get hurt by something that was not a threat before. Something that they can’t fight with their tools like price dumping or lawyers.
So it once was, so it shall be
It’s more nuanced than that. I would characterize a significant portion of FLOSS philosophy and participants as “libertarianism” (in the US politics sense).
On LGBTQ issues, they seem to be compatible with “gay and communism”, but a litmus test would be whether a member would support the use of FLOSS for
- Large companies’ profits (e.g. AWS)
- Military suppliers (e.g. Palantir, Anduril)
Interpreting the licences in their literal text would mean that the above are not only allowed, but in fact part of the “liberty” the license aims to protect.
The tragedy is that lots of “gay and communism” participants will find themselves betrayed by the libertarian elements once an actual choice appears in reality, such as when people try to “patch” the movement with Code of Conduct.
The problem, in my opinion, roots in the tendencies of the founding members towards “tech neutrality”. This is turn is a result of the US hippie movement’s ideology of “no ideology”.
