Metropolitan Police @metpoliceuk · 6h There are a number of events taking place in London this weekend.

Anyone attending should be aware that officers policing these will act where criminal offences, including those related to support of proscribed groups or organisations, are committed.

  • Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    7
    ·
    2 hours ago

    “such as flags”

    So wait, is there a Palestine action flag, or are they saying it’s illegal to have a Palestine flag?

  • Direct actionists have just started calling themselves “unaffiliated” or “yvette cooper”. the org also seems to have decent opsec and never had any members beyond its founders and loosely-organised cadres that did workshops in a few cities.

    I imagine a few actionists will get charged if they have email or phone comms that link them to PA before the ban, but the UK courts are nothing if a bunch of sticklers for rules and will probably be lenient (as with PA pre-ban) if cases come through the system. Proscription orders cannot apply retroactively.

    the risk will be to regular folk who will be harassed and arrested to break up Palestine marches, other solidarity events like fundraisers, and organisers of direct action training/workshops.

    Considering the Filton 18 is already being held without trial under terrorism charges, I wonder how much difference it will make to deter or punish actionists. Because if the UK govt never needed proscription to indefinitely hold these people, what is their real goal?

  • Mardoniush [she/her]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    28
    ·
    18 hours ago

    Courageous move by Keir Starmer, in the Yes Minister sense.

    Seriously though it’s just such an absurd overreaction. They hemorrhaging off their own politicians! They’re arresting 84 year old upper class priests!

  • jaupsinluggies@feddit.uk
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    arrow-down
    10
    ·
    7 hours ago

    For the hard of thinking, this means the group named “Palestine Action”. It does NOT mean “action and other stuff in favour of Palestine”.

    You want to protest the war? Fine, go on right ahead.

    You want to put up a “Palestine Action” poster, or wear a “Palestine Action” T-shirt? That’s not fine.

    If you’re still struggling to understand the difference, just ask and I’ll be happy to clarify.

    • IttihadChe@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      edit-2
      1 hour ago

      "For the hard of thinking, Trump is only going after CRIMINAL immigrants. It does not mean he’s gonna deport your grandma or send your family to a camp. "

      Inb4 “Bad comparison! Trump is an absolutely unique evil!” Despite the people they would be defending with that statement supporting genocide and criminalizing acts against said genocide.

    • -6-6-6-@lemmygrad.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      edit-2
      3 hours ago

      For the hard of thinking, this means the group named “Palestine Action”. It does NOT mean “action and other stuff in favour of Palestine”.

      So they can further enforce the legal precedent and framework of prosecuting those who actually have the courage, will and bravery to do what must be done and shove a knife directly into the Zionist feeding tubes that keep the illegitimate state of “Israel” going?

      But yeah, this wont be used to expand definitions to cover entire anti-zionist groups doing whatever they can to stop their shit-hole island bankrolling and arming a state competing with the Nazis to kill as many people as possible of a certain skin color.

      Did your mother put out cigarettes on your soft-spot as a kid? Can you clarify that one for me, motherfucker?

    • Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      3 hours ago

      Dumb and wrong, they will absolutely be using this to further criminalize support for Palestine

    • no one was questioning that lmao. but you’d be naiive to think this ban will be enforced to the strictest and most generous definition of the law.

      If you’re still struggling to understand the difference, just ask and I’ll be happy to clarify.

      just a bit weird you think you’re the official spokesman of the british police tbh. it isnt like reddit, you cant just declare yourself moderator lmao

      • jaupsinluggies@feddit.uk
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        7
        ·
        6 hours ago

        Please clarify why you think I’m a Nazi? (I’m not, btw. But maybe I inadvertently expressed something in a Nazi-y way; I haven’t done enough Nazi studies to know what figures of speech to avoid.)

        • Nakoichi [they/them]@hexbear.net
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          17
          ·
          edit-2
          5 hours ago

          Maybe its apologia for fucking genocide and accepting the criminalization of the only group on your putrid Nazi shithole island doing anything meaningful to oppose it?

          You’re a cowardly little worm. And your “For the hard of thinking” comment just comes off as the most insufferable reddit brain smugness and I would have responded hostilely to you just for that but you had to go on to act like the big boy genius in the room by saying “Ummmm well ackshually that group is illegal now you dum dums!”

          So yes I hold the same contempt for you as I do for someone that openly advocates for the genocide.

  • Bronstein_Tardigrade@lemmygrad.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    22
    ·
    19 hours ago

    The left has lacked a singular, uniting point of focus for the last few decades, a rallying cry. We may need to thank politicians for creating one.

  • grandepequeno [he/him]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    33
    ·
    21 hours ago

    So like, that means a UK person can’t retweet something that praises them or something like that or they’ll have to pay a fine or something?

    But in the anglo world they’ll still be getting shared around, so a lot of UK people might do that by accident thinking it’s fine, can that happen?

    • Yup. Of course these laws are arbitrarily enforced because that would involve rounding up thousands of people with more bark than bite.

      They don’t care for the lone poster on twitter, but they DO care about organisers and people putting out feelers to become actionists. The rest are selectively harassed or made examples of every now and then to make examples of people.

      Courts are backed up as it is, and prison spaces are low, so they’re being strategic right now.