Metropolitan Police @metpoliceuk · 6h There are a number of events taking place in London this weekend.

Anyone attending should be aware that officers policing these will act where criminal offences, including those related to support of proscribed groups or organisations, are committed.

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    For those for whom English is not their first language, this means the group named “Palestine Action”. It does NOT mean “action and other stuff in favour of Palestine”.

    You want to protest the war? Fine, go on right ahead.

    You want to put up a “Palestine Action” poster, or wear a “Palestine Action” T-shirt? That’s not fine.

    If you’re still struggling to understand the difference, just ask and I’ll be happy to clarify.

    • Tomorrow_Farewell [any, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      For those for whom English is not their first language, this means the group named “Palestine Action”. It does NOT mean “action and other stuff in favour of Palestine”.

      You seem to be hard of thinking. Why do you think PA is being branded as terrorists if not to stifle opposition to the genocide?

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        21 hours ago

        Because they broke into an airbase and damaged some RAF planes. That was the problem, not protesting about the war in Gaza, which is still legal.

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          Because they broke into an airbase and damaged some RAF planes.

          I.e. they opposed the genocide. That is a good thing.

          That was the problem, not protesting about the war in Gaza, which is still legal.

          ‘Protesting’ doesn’t do anything (not on its own, at least). It is completely ignorable if the actually relevant actions that protesting might gather support for are illegal.

          Going to note again that you are a nazi bootlicker.

    • no one was questioning that lmao. but you’d be naiive to think this ban will be enforced to the strictest and most generous definition of the law.

      If you’re still struggling to understand the difference, just ask and I’ll be happy to clarify.

      just a bit weird you think you’re the official spokesman of the british police tbh. it isnt like reddit, you cant just declare yourself moderator lmao

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        Please clarify why you think I’m a Nazi? (I’m not, btw. But maybe I inadvertently expressed something in a Nazi-y way; I haven’t done enough Nazi studies to know what figures of speech to avoid.)

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          Maybe its apologia for fucking genocide and accepting the criminalization of the only group on your putrid Nazi shithole island doing anything meaningful to oppose it?

          You’re a cowardly little worm. And your “For the hard of thinking” comment just comes off as the most insufferable reddit brain smugness and I would have responded hostilely to you just for that but you had to go on to act like the big boy genius in the room by saying “Ummmm well ackshually that group is illegal now you dum dums!”

          So yes I hold the same contempt for you as I do for someone that openly advocates for the genocide.

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            your “For the hard of thinking” comment just comes off as the most insufferable

            That’s a fair call and I’ve updated my comment. As a native English speaker who knows to varying degrees a few other languages I know it’s a tricky language so I wanted to clarify the distinction between “Palestine Action” and “Palestine action”.

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              As a native English speaker who knows to varying degrees a few other languages I know it’s a tricky language so I wanted to clarify the distinction between “Palestine Action” and “Palestine action”

              Notably, nobody is confused about the difference. You, however, seem to have a hard time understanding that, and you also seem to be confused about how branding PA as terrorists and rooting out opposition to the genocide are related.

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                On the contrary. A post with (currently) 45 upvotes states exactly “Thinking of putting up Palestine stuff in my windows just to dare them to come get me.”

                This is exactly what I mean. Putting up Palestine stuff is just fine, perfectly legal, and you cannot be arrested for it.

                If she really wants to be daring she should put up Palestine Action stuff in her windows.

                PA probably aren’t terrorists, just protesters who took it a bit too far, but the facts are: they broke into an airbase and damaged RAF jets by pouring paint into their engines. This will take those jets out of commission until the damage has been assessed; maybe the paint will just wash or burn off, but maybe they’ll need to be replaced, which is a cost that could run into millions because jet engines aren’t exactly cheap. So a case could be made that they are also terrorists, but it’s a bit of a stretch.

                “rooting out opposition to the genocide” No, we’re not doing that. There’s plenty of opposition and it’s fine; we live in a democracy and people are free to support whoever they want to support (in this case: as long as it’s the Palestinians in general, not Hamas).

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                  On the contrary. A post with (currently) 45 upvotes states exactly “Thinking of putting up Palestine stuff in my windows just to dare them to come get me.”

                  Notably, it doesn’t say what you claim it says. You need to learn to read English.

                  This is exactly what I mean. Putting up Palestine stuff is just fine, perfectly legal, and you cannot be arrested for it.

                  You can. People have already been arrested for protesting against the genocide. With this law being the justification.

                  PA probably aren’t terrorists, just protesters who took it a bit too far

                  They didn’t take it too far. If you think that opposing a genocide is ‘taking it too far’, then you have no basis for objecting to being called a nazi.

                  but the facts are: they broke into an airbase and damaged RAF jets by pouring paint into their engines.

                  Yeah, and? If you think that sabotaging a nazi state’s warplanes is bad, then it’s pretty obvious where you stand.

                  This will take those jets out of commission until the damage has been assessed

                  Good.
                  You are yet to bring up any reason to believe that PA did something bad.

                  which is a cost that could run into millions because jet engines aren’t exactly cheap

                  Good. The more the nazi states are hindered, the better.

                  So a case could be made that they are also terrorists, but it’s a bit of a stretch.

                  In that case, every non-official group that opposed such things as the Holocaust and the Lebensraum, Manifest Destiny, NATO’s invasions of Korea, Cuba, Vietnam, Laos, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Iran, etc., the European colonial rule over most of the world, and the like are all ‘terrorists’. The only people who aren’t are members of official militaries and the people who support those things, it seems.

                  “rooting out opposition to the genocide” No, we’re not doing that.

                  That is exactly what you have been doing.

                  There’s plenty of opposition and it’s fine

                  Let me guess, all of this opposition that you think is ‘fine’ is of the completely ignorable sort?

                  we live in a democracy

                  Says the person who lives under a literal monarchy with plenty of hereditary ruling positions, and where the vast majority of people have no say in what the state does.
                  Also, if you think that you live in a democracy, that means that you should bear responsibility for what your state does, as that would mean that you have a say in what your state does. That indicates that your state perpetrating a high-profile genocide is approved by you.

                  and people are free to support whoever they want to support (in this case: as long as it’s the Palestinians in general, not Hamas).

                  Ah yes, as long as they don’t support any resistance to the genocide.
                  Also, people like you who can’t even form a coherent thought for why supporting Hamas (and other groups that are resisting the genocide) is supposed to be bad, but want to keep repeating that cliche are quite silly.

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                    16 hours ago

                    On the contrary. A post with (currently) 45 upvotes states exactly “Thinking of putting up Palestine stuff in my windows just to dare them to come get me.”

                    Notably, it doesn’t say what you claim it says. You need to learn to read English.

                    Oh, OK. Please explain to me what it really says.

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            Ah, the old “all British are nazis”. About as accurate as “all tankies are…” comments.

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      For the hard of thinking, this means the group named “Palestine Action”. It does NOT mean “action and other stuff in favour of Palestine”.

      So they can further enforce the legal precedent and framework of prosecuting those who actually have the courage, will and bravery to do what must be done and shove a knife directly into the Zionist feeding tubes that keep the illegitimate state of “Israel” going?

      But yeah, this wont be used to expand definitions to cover entire anti-zionist groups doing whatever they can to stop their shit-hole island bankrolling and arming a state competing with the Nazis to kill as many people as possible of a certain skin color.

      Did your mother put out cigarettes on your soft-spot as a kid? Can you clarify that one for me, motherfucker?

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      Dumb and wrong, they will absolutely be using this to further criminalize support for Palestine

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      "For the hard of thinking, Trump is only going after CRIMINAL immigrants. It does not mean he’s gonna deport your grandma or send your family to a camp. "

      Inb4 “Bad comparison! Trump is an absolutely unique evil!” Despite the people they would be defending with that statement supporting genocide and criminalizing acts against said genocide.