I saw this graph be posted around on reddit (the graphics definately look like they are from the zionist rag). I don’t know which attack piece it was pulled out of though.

I’ll be honest, I’m not sure what exactly is happening here, cause I didn’t follow the election at all. However, I doubt that primaries are all too representative of the broader state of public opinion in NYC.

According to a quick Google search on Wikipedia, the primary had about 1 million votes, while the population of the 5 boroughs of NYC is almost 9 million.

In theory, a sample size of 1 million is more than enough to make a good statistical comparison, however, personally who votes in democrat primary is a self-selecting category.

Despite this, I am seeing the rather typical accusations levied against mamdani about champagne socialism or whatever (by the same people who don’t mind killing the poor and third worlders, but I digress).

One commenter went as far as to proclaim that “there is no more proletariat in America. American labor has achieved the end of history. The cops no longer break their strikes. They all have good union jobs and desire cultural security instead of freebies. Ideology is the luxury of the wealthy”.

Of course, the important possible explanations are left out

  1. Mamdani is a new guy with no name recognition. His campaign might simply have not reached low income voters who don’t keep up with politics.
  2. A lag of 13 points still means that he has a significant base amongst the lowest income voters.
  3. Most households making between 50,000 and 100,000 in New York are, as far as I know, still working class and not bourgeois. “Working class” has an objective meaning. In fact, even a sole trader petite bourgeois is working class (since proletariat =/= working class, someone who does not own private property).
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    So, Cuomo was +19 with the under $50,000 median income group, and this map shows us where those voters are located on a map of NYC. I think I have that right. The majority of the highlighted area in that first box is in the Bronx.

    The Bronx, according to datacommons.org has a median household income of $49,000:

    According to the polling from a few weeks ago Cuomo was ahead in Bronx County.

    The Bronx’s population is 55% Hispanic and 25% black.

    According to statisticalatlas.com, which gets its data from the US Census, the median Hispanic household income is $38,000 and the median Black household income is $42,000.

    The Hispanic demographic primarily resides in The Bronx:

    It just seems disingenuous to state that Cuomo was +19 in this income bracket when we also know race is deeply entangled with earning levels. Like, what that image tells me is they simply looked at the racial demographic exit poll data and likely made some assumptions based on the median income levels of that racial group.

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      This is definitely a moment where my belief that it should be “class first” instead of “identity first” (this is just short hand for the moment, hopefully you get the point) is not being proven true and unfortunately identity as well as class are so tied together in this country it’s ridiculous

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        Yeah, wealth distribution by race is still very fucked in the states. You have to discuss people’s identity because so much of the class violence inflicted on people is done through their identity.