Yeah Red is getting taken out behind the barn next ban list
I don’t see the problem? This format looks super diverse. You have the red aggro deck, the blue-based aggro deck (with red), and the fast paced combo decks (that are blue/red aggro decks).
Plus, to quote WOTC directly:
Standard is flourishing
Not only were there 6 mirror matches in the bracket, prearranging the finals matchup, but plenty of people showed up with decks that weren’t red, and some even had favorable matchups against one of these archetypes.
Yet somehow, wotc will look at this and make a ban announcement next week like “We hear you; sheoldred the apocalypse is banned from standard, but we’re watching cori steel cutter closely”
I think they will have to hit Monstrous Rage, that feels obvious. But beyond that, I personally think to re-balance the entire format and prevent the next deck running away with it, they need to also hit Cori Steel-Cutter, Stormchaser’s Talent, and one of Abuela’s Awakening or Omniscience. Up the Beanstalk and This Town Ain’t Big Enough don’t rise to the same level and feel more like enablers to lots of other decks.
I think Vivi is another insane, over the top, does-to-much card that wins the game on turn 4, but we will need to wait and see with that because nothing in the FF set will get touched.
Omniscience is strong but gets bodied by GY hate. It’s just too hard to run counters to decks other than aggro because while Omniscience wins on turn 4, these aggro decks win on turn 3 (or practically win, just short a burn spell). I don’t think it needs anything done to it. It also isn’t really new to have a fast combo deck. The consistency is the main issue, and I’d rather see Ephara’s Dispersal banned before Omniscience or Abuelo’s Awakening. If standard slows down enough for a control deck to exist, it’ll naturally push Omniscience combo down the tier list.
WOTC tried too hard to sell cards and ended up breaking standard to the point that no new sets can even make an impact anymore. I know they won’t fix it if the previous B&R says anything, but IMO they need to go full Eldraine on this format and ban a ton of cards before it’ll be fixed.
That’s a very good point about Omni. And I totally agree on WOTC breaking standard. Normally some of these problems would be resolved with the 2 year rotation too but now we’re stuck in this really tough spot that can’t be fixed without those Eldraine style bans. They seem very scared to do that though.
The issue with Beans is that it becomes a must-play in pretty much every midrange/late game deck because of how much advantage it creates. And with it being so easy to trigger with the Overlords it’s only really being held back by Aggro being insanely overpowered right now
Beans is insane, but rotation might fix that deck. Overlord Beans will still be a deck, but you lose Leyline Binding, and Ride’s End isn’t close to being a replacement.
I could see Beans being banned, but I think I would be willing to see what it does post-rotation first.
Emergency ban tomorrow?