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tactical_trans_karen [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net to news@hexbear.netEnglish ·
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[TW: Nazi policies being enacted] Executive order post.

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[TW: Nazi policies being enacted] Executive order post.

tactical_trans_karen [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net to news@hexbear.netEnglish ·
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Shit’s about to pop off, but we don’t know exactly what the orders are yet. I figure we could collect them in a single post and discuss as they come out.

Edit: Official link for orders: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/

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  • VILenin [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/initial-rescissions-of-harmful-executive-orders-and-actions/

    Cuba redesignated as State Sponsor of Terrorism.

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      i hate this dude. i joke a lot about how liberals talk about trump but for real fuck trump. he’s such a piece of shit and a worthless waste of life.

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    • tactical_trans_karen [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.netOP
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      Called that shit!

    • RedWizard [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      Aw but last year the state department said that process takes 6 months… Ah well, nevertheless…

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      Was going to happen with Rubio in his cabinet

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        Mmm; good point.

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    return to in person work just seems petty

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      He’s a commercial real estate guy. Now all of his real estate friends can turn the screws on WFH across the board.

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        But does government rent its buildings? seems unlikely tbh (they did rent wtc 7 tho thonk )

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          It’s about ending WFH more widely.

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            That was my first thought as I found out about the election results: WFH is over

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              Billions must commute

        • Coolkidbozzy [he/him]@hexbear.net
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          the government leases buildings to other parts of the government

          https://www.gsa.gov/real-estate/gsa-properties

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            another deficit slashed ancaptain

            • SkingradGuard [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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              Tbf all governments do it, even private institutions like universities do something similar.

  • tactical_trans_karen [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.netOP
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    “Unleashing Alaska’s potential” They’re going to drill in Anwar.

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      this is fine

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      The text of that makes me want to puke

  • Piment [they/them, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    FLYING THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES AT FULL-STAFF ON INAUGURATION DAY

    angry-place the fuck Jimmy Carter executive order lol

    • NSRXN@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      it can’t effect Carter, who is dead, but if trump dies Jan 19, 2032…

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        The reason the flag was at half stalf before the executive order is because Biden chose to lower them because Carter died a week or two ago.

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          right. but if trump does just before some inauguration some time in the future, we won’t have to run the flags at half staff during the inauguration

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    Cartels designated as terrorist organizations. Someone just asked if he might send special forces to Mexico, he said “stranger things have happened”.

    Declaration of national emergency on the southern boarder.

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      Bold strategy entering into a hot conflict with basically the only manufacturing economy in the world not explicitly trying to join BRICS.

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      Cartels designated as terrorist organizations

      Wait did he just crossed the CIA? Last president who tried got his head ventilated.

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        On the one hand, it’d be so fucking funny if they made a JFK sequel but on the other that’d be yet another crime for the CIA to get away with while they blame the USSR China for it

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        Anything to read about cartels and the alphabets?

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          Hmm, I think starting with the getaway plane for the Kiki Camarena affair should get you started on the rabbit hole of the cia. The origins of the Zeta cartel is also a starting point.

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          The CIA as Organized Crime by Douglas Valentine or Operation Gladio by Paul L. Williams are good overviews

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            Oh, the Valentine book goes into Mexican cartels? Cool!

            I’ve been meaning to read it anyway, thanks!

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              Oh sorry I thought you meant criminal cartels in general, not just the Mexican ones. They’re mentioned a little in the Valentine book but only in passing for Gladio. If you can get the translation, Los Señores del Narco does go into a bit more detail and I haven’t read it but La CIA, Camarena y Caro Quintero by Esquivel apparently goes into it.

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                Very cool, thank you so much!

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                  No problem comrade happy to be of help

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    “RESTORING THE DEATH PENALTY AND PROTECTING PUBLIC SAFETY”

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/restoring-the-death-penalty-and-protecting-public-safety/

    This includes pursuing death penalties for anyone who kills a cop “regardless of other factors” and for any “illegal aliens” who commit a capital offense.

    It also includes this terrible bit: “The Attorney General shall evaluate the places of imprisonment and conditions of confinement for each of the 37 murderers whose Federal death sentences were commuted by President Biden, and the Attorney General shall take all lawful and appropriate action to ensure that these offenders are imprisoned in conditions consistent with the monstrosity of their crimes and the threats they pose.”

    Where they will punish people who were commuted by Biden by ensuring that if they can’t give them the death penalty they can give them a life of torture.

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      They’re going to let the feds harass Leonard Peltier in his house arrest and make his life as close to the misery of actual prison as they can.

      This is why Biden is fucking pathetic for commuting instead of pardoning him and others.

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        This could also outright mean that Peltier remains in prison.

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      This includes pursuing death penalties for anyone who kills a cop

      Ah yes, the “in for a penny, in for a pound” law skeleton-guns-akimbo

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    He just said of Gaza “It’s gotta be rebuilt… in a different way” “There’s some fantastic things that can be done with Gaza”…

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      “most of them are dead”

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        He was talking about the leadership in Gaza. I thought that too, but double checked. Still fucked.

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      It’s gunna be Trump Tower + The Kowloon Walled City but in Gaza.

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        Please, step away from the lathe…

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    lmao trump admitting that china harvesting user data from tiktok zoomers isn’t a real national security issue

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    RESTORING NAMES THAT HONOR AMERICAN GREATNESS(3)(a)

    Denali to be renamed to McKinley

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      Sec. 4. (a) Gulf of America.

      He did it, folks

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        This stupid fucking country is about to get so much stupider

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          stupidest day every subsequent day etc

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        Link: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/restoring-names-that-honor-american-greatness/

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      Disgusting.

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      Oh for God’s sake

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    Defending Women From Gender Ideology Extremism and Restoring Biological Truth to the Federal Government

    “Sex” shall refer to an individual’s immutable biological classification as either male or female.

    Each agency and all Federal employees shall enforce laws governing sex-based rights, protections, opportunities, and accommodations to protect men and women as biologically distinct sexes.

    The Secretaries of State and Homeland Security, and the Director of the Office of Personnel Management, shall implement changes to require that government-issued identification documents, including passports, visas, and Global Entry cards, accurately reflect the holder’s sex

    The Attorney General and Secretary of Homeland Security shall ensure that males are not detained in women’s prisons or housed in women’s detention centers

    The Attorney General shall ensure that the Bureau of Prisons revises its policies concerning medical care to be consistent with this order, and shall ensure that no Federal funds are expended for any medical procedure, treatment, or drug for the purpose of conforming an inmate’s appearance to that of the opposite sex.

    Agencies shall effectuate this policy by taking appropriate action to ensure that intimate spaces designated for women, girls, or females (or for men, boys, or males) are designated by sex and not identity.

    agency-imposed requirements on federally funded entities, including contractors, to achieve the policy of this order.

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      I hope all the right wing shitheads feel good about this when they’re dying because they can’t afford healthcare or rent

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          True. Marginalized groups always get it worse unfortunately. And for what? The right wing shitheads don’t even get anything in return. They are morons and will also get screwed over by their own stupidity and bigotry, but I don’t care what happens to them and honestly they deserve it. Stupidity and bigotry aren’t excuses for bad decisions.

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      Sec. 6. Bill Text. Within 30 days of the date of this order, the Assistant to the President for Legislative Affairs shall present to the President proposed bill text to codify the definitions in this order.

      Sec. 7. Agency Implementation and Reporting. (a) Within 120 days of the date of this order, each agency head shall submit an update on implementation of this order to the President, through the Director of the Office of Management and Budget. That update shall address:

      (i) changes to agency documents, including regulations, guidance, forms, and communications, made to comply with this order; and

      (ii) agency-imposed requirements on federally funded entities, including contractors, to achieve the policy of this order.

      Does this mean I still have time to apply for a passport or am I fucked? All of my other identifying documents are in order.

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        If anyone came back to check for an answer to this, there kind of isn’t one.

        A very professional and dedicated man answered my call to the state department for clarification on the new policies and he said this: “We don’t know and we don’t know when we will know. Follow your gut and do what you think is right, the worst that can happen is that the application gets rejected”

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      https://web-cdn.bsky.app/profile/erininthemorning.com/post/3lg7qwpaewk2u

      Erin’s analysis of the order.

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      That’s the most cissy shit I’ve ever heard in my fucking life. Pure ideology

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      Bit idea: invasive tests on cis people to make sure we have the “immutable” characteristics to match our gender. It’d be really funny if this EO caused an explosion in the number of intersex people recognized by the government.

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        this has already happened w sports and was deeply traumatic for many intersex women involved

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          I’m trying to think of ways we inconvenience the chuds without harming anyone else.

          :doomer:

          Maybe we just do the tests on cis people and don’t tell them the results?

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        4chan has been joking about “Penis Inspection Day” for years and by god they finally made it happen.

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      • oscardejarjayes [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        Enforcing the use of only M and F, and only using the word ‘sex’, not gender. The X gender marker will probably stop happening.

        Trans people will also be excluded from some spaces.

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          It reads to me like gender changes on federal documents are banned, and trans women will be forced into men’s prison as well.

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            Looks like those are the primary points, yes. But it doesn’t say anything about not allowing changes… Maybe that’s an oversight that gets amended later? Seems like they’re going real hard at trans prisoners and forcing them to detransition.

            Hopefully the legality of that will be challenged… But I feel like they’ve set it up as a trap to have SCOTUS declare us illegal.

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              “Sex” shall refer to an individual’s immutable biological classification as either male or female.

              require that government-issued identification documents, including passports, visas, and Global Entry cards, accurately reflect the holder’s sex

              This is what I was looking at. If sex is immutable I don’t see how you would be allowed to change it (and have it be “accurately represented”).

              Can’t wait for that ruling yea

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                geordi-no “Legal male”

                geordi-yes “Illegal female”

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                  It sucks that Rowling is a TERF cause she would have some spitfire with this one

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              The phrasing in (2)(a) appears to ban changes by defining sex as immutable

              “Sex” shall refer to an individual’s immutable biological classification as either male or female. “Sex” is not a synonym for and does not include the concept of “gender identity.”

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                Then what happens to people that have already had legal sex change? Some people have gotten nearly every document changed, including birth certificates.

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                  That’s for the courts to decide. “Immutable” seems very clear in this context and I doubt any court will shut this down because it isn’t overstepping executive power or breaking precedent.

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                  Iirc Kansas started forcing people to change things back (e.g. if you needed a driver’s license renewal)

                  made me realize I probably shouldn’t go through the effort of changing since 1) they would have a record of that change 2) they will probably just change it back or some shit

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              Sounds like Germany before WW2 all over again.

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          God fucking damn it, I shouldn’t have put it off :(

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        Reading it now and editing with quotes, sorry

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    Withdrawing The United States From The World Health Organization - The White House

    That action will make a bird flu pandemic that much worse.

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      This makes no sense because Trump himself was a vaxxer and big believer in covid. He’s doing this for the base and not because he believes it’s a good thing.

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      “birds aren’t americans, i only care about americans, who can not get bird flu” cheeto-man

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        “It’s bird flu, folks, not human flu. Since when are humans birds, except for some woke weirdos who pee in litter boxes in classrooms? Let me know when humans turn into birds and then I’ll start believing the hysterical eggheads about how ‘dangerous’ bird flu is to real people.”

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      rust-darkness avian flu is going to be unimaginablely horrific

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    It’s like the predictable outcome from Obama. It doesn’t even feel real. I think I’m actually derealizing right now. This shit is going to make shit so awful.

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      And it wasn’t even worth it. Obama was dog shit.

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    Birthright citizenship ended.

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      Is that even possible, or are they just going to go back to deporting legal citizens? The Constitution has a 14th Amendment

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        My guess is they’re going to try to deport legal citizens.

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        They’ll have probably several months to deport a bunch of people before it gets to the supreme court, which will probably rule it’s fine anyway. Remember that the body deciding if something is legal is 6 far right cranks and 3 liberals.

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        The idea is that in 30 days, newborn children of illegal immigrants will not be considered citizens due to the “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” clause of the 14th amendment. This executive order will not revoke citizenship (ex post facto laws create another legal hurdle), but rather refuse to grant it. It’s constitutionally grey and will almost inevitably need to go through the courts.

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        The amendment reads:

        “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

        Their argument is that non-citizens are not “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” and therefore it doesn’t apply.

        So it’ll go to the courts which will of course agree with Donny

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          non-citizens are not subject to the jurisdiction of the united states while being in the united states?

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            Yeah, that’s a ridiculous argument. That part was in there to avoid automatically granting indigenous tribes citizenship.

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          So non-citizens aren’t subject to the jurisdiction of America? Meaning that they can’t be prosecuted for crimes they commit by the US gov? Hmm…

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        The supreme court will decide most likely. That’s the goal with most of these.

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          It bugged me when people were like, “oh well it won’t be that bad he tried all this stuff his first term” but absolutely were not considering that he didn’t have a supreme court majority backing him then.

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            It’s basically a soft coup, or the practical implementation of the right’s Unitary Executive Theory that they’ve been running with since Bush.

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      Does the US government pay for travel? I can’t afford to leave, especially since I’m disabled. It’d be really funny if they deported me somewhere I’ve never been but had to pay for the other country to take me.

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    Shithole country

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    https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/flying-the-flag-of-the-united-states-at-full-staff-on-inauguration-day/

    He’s still upset about peanut man croaking ahead of his big day

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      Chad Peanut James dying of Cancer to own the dang Orangeman

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