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  • a_little_red_rat [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    3 days ago

    I live in sweden and the divide on Greta is hilarious. On one hand you have reactionaries who STILL put stickers like “fuck you greta!” on their shitty cars, on the other you have lib climate activists who seem downright scared of her more based activism and talk about her “having gone too far” in hushed voices. Only ppl I’ve met that like her now are either MLs or hardcore anarchists. Imagine if she would join a marxist org

      • REgon [they/them]@hexbear.net
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        Well you see it’s actually words and ideas that change the world <- Liberal ideology

        Which is why we should let nazis say whatever they want, to demonstrate the strength of the concept of freedom of speech <- Also liberal ideology

        But leftists need to shut the fuck up <- Still liberal ideology

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
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          Idk if it ever aired outside the US but back in the 90s there was a kids show called Captain Planet and these five woke dei kids were like ring wraiths for Gaia and they’d like set oil executives and loggers on fire and if things got too tough they’d combine their ring powers to summer Captain Planet, a cheerful blue murder himbo who would use super powers to do eco-terrorism. This was a show for children! One regular ass tv! It could never happen today. Never. It wouldn’t be tolerated.

          • Oh, I’ve seen it too. Many shows back then had eco activism as a good thing, or at least oil execs as villains. I think even that weird “Motormice from Mars” show had an oil baron as the main antagonist.

            And I don’t think it couldn’t happen now. Media, even when revolutionary on the surface, is barely driving real world engagement and can be easily defanged. We live in the revival era of anti-capitalist messaging in media (film and even video games), and yet it’s been fully consumed by capital. I hate Zizek and his clique, but Mark Fisher was spot on in Capitalist Realism.

            Avatar, one of the biggest box office successes in the world, has a blatant anti-colonial message yet most people don’t apply it to the obvious parallells in the rral world. We just consume, feel good for a moment for agreeing with the obvious morally correct choice, then do fuck all about it. And execs know it.

            sorry for the doomer note here

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              yet most people don’t apply it to the obvious parallells in the real world

              Because they think they don’t live in that world. They can’t see the parallels because they see their world as flawless.

              They think it’s all fictional and made-up, and that, because they are receiving their treats, they must therefore live in a utopia.

          • REgon [they/them]@hexbear.net
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            It did come out of a time period when urban guerrillas had just stopped being active. Plane hijackings were still pretty normal. In the context of its’ time it was super chill, these days it’s no longer chill. Overton window and all that I guess.

      • I am all about kill your heroes etc, so I don’t follow her and only hear about her every few months, and while I am always positively surprised, she wouldn’t be the first to take a nose dive at a moment’s notice. At the same time, I don’t think she’s actually trying to sell out, her shit is extremely unsellable ever since she dropped the lib “school strike” and went in with more hardcore activism. I think she might be genuine, and I say that as somebody who thought she was just a preppy kid back during her strike years (she comes from a well-off family etc).