Live updates from the Republican debate courtesy of USA Today if you don’t want to give Fox the views.

  • @morphballganon
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    3910 months ago

    “Consensus is the opposite of leadership” eeesh Mike. So if 60% of America agrees, the leaderlike thing to do is argue with them?

    • Billiam
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      2810 months ago

      It does seem to be a very undemocratic statement, doesn’t it? Par for the GOP course.

    • themeatbridge
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      710 months ago

      This is the one, rare instance where I’ll agree with Pence to a point.

      Democracy can be cruel to the minority, and creating an equitable society built on freedom and justice means that sometimes, you have to listen to 60% of the people demanding something and then say “no.” Leaders lead their people to where they should be, living by example and making persuasive arguments. Leaders also compromise and build consensus, and great leaders recognize that sometimes they don’t get to have it their way. We should choose leaders we trust to make those judgement calls.

      The problem with that is that Pence is not anywhere on the list of people with the qualities or integrity to be trusted to make decisions. Pence is the sort of guy to order pizza for a group and get four white pizzas with olives because he likes olives and sauce is sinful.