• Billiam@lemmy.world
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    Oh, so that’s her thirty pieces of silver?

    I guess, considering it’s Trump, more like 30 pieces of IOUs.

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      Cracks me up that we hardly hear anything from JD Vance now. It’s like they realized he was a horrible pick.

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        I hope his wife divorces his ass after they lose. What he has done to his own family is unconscionable.

        His kids should be taken from him, no shared custody.

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          he completely threw everything he worked for away in a span of… about two months. just goes to show how fast someone can fuck their lives up

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          I mean, Melania seems to be a pretty heinous person herself - just not to her kid. And his kids (besides Tiffany, I think?) are all varying shades of sociopathic too.

          Edit: yeah, Vance’s wife too… I genuinely don’t see how that lasts, considering he’s overtly courting white supremacists and Usha is… you know… very definitely not white. That’s not something you get to sweep under the rug.

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            I mean, I meant JD Vance’s wife, Usha.

            He threw his own marriage under the bus, and he threw his kids under the bus pretending not to fucking understand mixed kids even though he has some.

            I’m not saying Usha is somehow a good person, she still married Vance, but it would bring me great joy to see his ass dumped for being a loser after this is all over.

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          I really can’t feel bad for these women that get involved with jackass conservative men. There were plenty of signals that they either ignored or saw as green flags. For her to be in her position is either extreme negligence or sheer karma, probably the latter.

          But I feel very bad for any children that land in that position. They did nothing to deserve what they’re going through.

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      Alluding she is pulling a Judas is actually too kind for her. At least Judas was canonically a disciple at one point. Tulsi has always been a fake Democrat.

      Her father is a politician and a founding leader of a wacky alt-right cult in Hawaii. He was a conservative and very invested in the anti LGBT movement up until the late 00s, only changing tickets when Hawaii started going blue.

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      Don’t you have to be an actual member of the group in the first place for it to be considered a betrayal?

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    From Vice Chair of the DNC to endorsing Donald Fucking Trump and being part of his campaign team. Hilary was on the fucking nose calling her a russian asset.

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    It’s just a little bit fucking wild that Sanders was the only real progressive in 2016, because he’s the only one who hasn’t turned tail and started endorsing Trump.

    We really need to be more aware how deeply conservatives are trying to turn progressives.

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      That’s why I’m incredibly skeptical of some of the “leftist” accounts that constantly go out of their way to exclusively demonize the Democratic Party.

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        As one of those leftists, it’s sad but understandable for people to be skeptical at this point.

        I have a lot of issues with the Democratic party, but its because I don’t have another party to vote for. I could waste my time critiquing Republicans, but they’re so far off the map of rationality that it feels silly and pointless. Democrats are still at least offering positions that can be critiqued outside “that was an outright lie” which is all you can say about Republican “policies.”

        I try to frontload those comments to make clear nothing could ever convince me to vote Republican or withhold my vote when they’re trying to fucking roll over democracy into autocracy.

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          I do find it interesting that the Overton window in the US has now shifted so far to the right that there’s a clear space for moderate leftists with no overlap with the Democrats. But until the Republicans aren’t any sort of a threat, actually trying to build a leftist party will go nowhere due to the risk that Republicans can still get more of the vote than any single party to their left.

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            That could be coming if the Republicans get hammered enough this election. I can only hope.

            They are “dying,” demographically, and to stay relevant it requires the party to start casting a wider net and getting more people on their side, which naturally means becoming less extremist and way less racist. They’ve hitched their destiny to white supremacism, and we’re on the verge of them mostly becoming so marginal than it might actually be time for the growth of a real left party. They’re unwilling (and probably unable) to change the trajectory of their own party, so that’s why they are going for broke with as much cheating as possible, because it may genuinely be one of the last elections where they matter at all, electorally.

            Further, we also have Democrats who think we need a “strong Republican party,” like Nancy Pelosi, are finally retiring and are being replaced by people like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who are a lot less sure we need a Republican party… because in their eyes the Democrats are already right-wing as it is.

            This doesn’t mean the Republicans will disappear, but there might be enough room electorally for a real leftist party to grow in the space left behind.

            Personal opinion, but it stands as part of why I’m willing to put myself down for the “lesser evil” here. Long-term, we might have a less evil lesser evil to choose from if we can successfully kill the Republicans demographically so that no amount of gerrymandering can save them as a party.

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              I wish I could share your optimism. They’ve hitched their cart to a number of horses; white nationalism, conservative US Christian fundamentalism (which isn’t conservative, Christian or fundamentalist except in name), and the conspiracy camp. There’s overlap between those three, but they each have separate non-negotiable items they’ll always vote for.

              And the problem with chasing those groups is that if Republicans attempt to court more moderate conservatives, those groups will do whatever they can to burn everything down.

              So the party won’t just fade out as people leave; it is stuck where it is and won’t die until all its supporters (current and future) have died.

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                Yeah combined with the disproportionate representation that the small population/empty states get, and the electoral college, they’re likely to remain a threat unless and until we can get rank choice voting and interstate popular vote compact working.

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          From that link

          Existing studies and comprehensive reviews often find only limited support and only under certain conditions; they generally contradict the theory’s central premises.

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      It’s populism. You have to see if someone’s policy positions are consistent over time, that they have a specific ideal they are following, vs what they think is the most popular policies.

      Granted, it’s a huge pain with new politicians when they don’t have that history, but I think Tulsi had a pretty clear history that showed she wasn’t progressive.

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        She was openly against gay people up until only about a few years ago when she switched to being against trans people.

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      Gabbard was conservative from the start, people just got caught up in the story of her rebelling against the DNC. If they’d applied a little more scrutiny to her past they wouldn’t have assumed she was a progressive.

      Bernie’s big problem was that he liked to surround himself with charismatic people who would puff his ego while being outside the establishment structure, which is fertile ground for grifters. They ran out of room for grifting in the Bernie lane and there’s all this conservative money floating around for turncoats and wreckers, so of course a lot of them ended up following that path.

      It’s not that liking charismatic flatterers is all that different from a lot of establishment politicians, but for them there’s a deeper web of power making it both harder to advance a personal brand and easier to keep the money-train running indefinitely if you play ball.

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      I know you’re talking about progressives in the Democratic primary but all of the remaining members of the Squad are still solidly progressive with no signs of switching teams. If there’s any evidence to the contrary I’d love to see it. Generally I feel like pseudoprogressive folks like Gabbard were behaving suspiciously from the start.

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    RFK is basically that brain worm piloting a vaguely human-shaped mecha. Tulsi is literally a cult princess. In these regards, they are perfect additions to the shit gibbon’s rogues gallery.

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    Is the transition team in charge of eliminating all trans people in this case? Or is Trump officially planning to go Trans?

    (I’m kidding… sort of)

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    What do these jobs have in common with Trump Infrastructure Week? They never have a chance of seeing the light of day