I’m getting better at understanding them

But damn sometimes I spend more time searching for definitions to understand it than it actually takes to read it

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    dude even I can’t keep up anymore and I can’t even legally vote yet

    shit evolves too fast

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      I almost feel bad for you guys. You guys are gonna feel old a lot sooner than I did. The way I spoke was still relevant at least until I was 23ish and then slowly tapered off.

      Just take solace in the fact that when you guys are all my age you’re gonna cringe so fucking hard at the way you spoke you’ll collapse into a black hole. It happens to all of us so it’s probably better if you know less.

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        After I watched slang evolve multiple times across only a couple of generations, I stopped worrying about being in, and realized as a writer that slang older than the parental generation stays classy. Also, there’s no correct way to use a living language. References might tell us what was the norm at the moment they were published, but they were obsolete before they were sold.

        I may have to invent a dialect combining Newspeak and Nadsat and go extra crunchy.

  • I did an indoor skydiving thing once and there’s a lesson beforehand. My partner and I did the required skills well and our young instructor said “Let’s go” and so we got up to leave the room. Incorrect, he was just expressing approval.

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      I’m trying to decide if that’s on you or the instructor. My first thought was to blame the instructor for being confusing. But now that I’ve thought about it some more, if you had just said something remarkable and they responded “no way, get out of here!” then you probably wouldn’t have thought they were literally telling you to leave.

      So yeah… you might just be getting old.

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      fam fr fr, u bein here is high key cheugy. Stop simping for my eco friendly wood vaneer, take the L or u’ll catch these hands Periodt

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          it’s a pejorative for people who aren’t following the trends and particularly the now out of fashion trends from the 2010’s (live laugh love signs, mom jeans, minions, holds up spork, girl bossing etc) that’s now associated with being behind the times, tryharding etc, but has evolved to a general term for people who are uncool.

          (I am a millennial though for the record so maybe I’m not using it right :D)

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            I’d never heard it before. After looking it up, that appears to be the correct usage. It’s one of those slang words with no apparent etymology. It refers to a pretty specific time period, so it will probably have a short shelf life unless it changes in meaning.

            • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              I’ll add the opposite of cheugy is basic and still negative. Basic people conform too much to the current trends, are trying too hard to be in the groove, and are hence seen as shallow and artificial.

              So you can’t win either way, but it was this way in the 1980s too.

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    This is such a weird performative thing, why are we pretending kids are speaking some incomprehensible foreign language? Aside from a couple pieces of really specific slang, most of which is only ever used ironically anyway (I’m looking at you, “skibidi”), it’s the exact same evolution of language and slang as every other previous generation before it, just perhaps with a wider spread and more global influence. And almost all of it can be deciphered with little effort: Rizz = ChaRISma, Gyatt = GYATTdamn (goddamn), etc.

    Like I know we’re all eventually going to become the next generation of boomers, such is the curse of time, but jesus christ y’all don’t have to fucking speedrun to that conclusion.

    I don’t know about you, but personally I always planned to be better to the generation that followed me than the generation that preceded mine was to us.

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      Rizz = ChaRISma, Gyatt = GYATTdamn (goddamn), etc.

      Erhm… As a non native speaker, WTF?

      Rizz, first thing that comes to mind is rice. GYATT… Dunno. Gynaecologist I guess…

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      personally I always planned to be better to the generation that followed me than the generation that preceded mine was to us.

      And this is why I make the effort to understand. We don’t have to make the same mistakes of the past, we have to tools to understand.

      And I do my best, I look up the words I don’t know and can’t figure out. And worst case I simply ask.

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    I surprised someone in my (very mixed age) friend group when, mid-game, I went to KnowYourMeme to look up the history of “gyatt” and what the heck it meant to see if the name of the random player “WhatTheGyatt” was inappropriate or not.

    The fact that the word had history evoked surprise.

    I still don’t LIKE it, but now I know where it came from and what they’re trying to say.

    (I also had to look up “rizz” because my not-school-aged brain thinks it sounds like jizz and was confused why a bunch of kids would be playing cum tag??? Turns out, it does NOT mean jizz)

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      i mean it’s a bit unfair to show it in a different font, if i wrote this in wingdings you wouldn’t understand shit either.

      Hwæt. We Gardena in geardagum, þeodcyninga, þrym gefrunon, hu ða æþelingas ellen fremedon. Oft Scyld Scefing sceaþena þreatum, monegum mægþum, meodosetla ofteah, egsode eorlas. Syððan ærest wearð feasceaft funden, he þæs frofre gebad, weox under wolcnum, weorðmyndum þah, oðþæt him æghwylc þara ymbsittendra ofer hronrade hyran scolde, gomban gyldan. þæt wæs god cyning. ðæm eafera wæs æfter cenned, geong in geardum, þone god sende folce to frofre; fyrenðearfe ongeat þe hie ær drugon aldorlease lange hwile. Him þæs liffrea, wuldres wealdend, woroldare forgeaf; Beowulf wæs breme blæd wide sprang, Scyldes eafera Scedelandum in.

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          He/she probably meant hand, not font. Most people don’t know the terminology regarding letterforms.

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          yeah, and as you can very obviously see it does not look like modern text, the average person would struggle to identify most letters.

          My point is that using a text written in what is effectively a completely different writing system isn’t a fair comparison, of course it’s going to be impossible to understand when you can’t tell what the letters are! That doesn’t tell you anything about how different the actual language is.

          • 🇰 🔵 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 ℹ️@yiffit.net
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            yeah, and as you can very obviously see it does not look like modern text

            Because it’s not; that was the point. It’s still English, but is unrecognizable as such. It literally looks like “some kind of elvish.”

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              except the major difference is just that it uses funny letters, which you can do with any language and that doesn’t mean the actual language itself is different!

              You’re effectively taking dutch, writing it in cyrillic script, and going “look at how different the languages are” when in fact dutch is generally easier to comprehend than a thick scottish dialect.

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              I never really understood at what point a language evolves enough to be an entirely new language.

              Old English feels so far removed from even middle English, let alone modern English.

              We have “new” and “old” to differentiate them, but with how many Latin words alone entered English between Old English and Modern English, It’s something I’ve never found a comprehensive answer to.

              I guess, what is it about proto-indo European that we acknowledge as a distinct language from the hundreds of thousands of languages that evolved from it, other than time scale and global impact.

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      I hate that I understand that. I don’t have kids, I just have a friend that uses all that lingo even though he’s 30. He’s super cool, but super cringe some times lol.

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        To be fair everything after the fifth word is essentially just tone marking

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    I was listening to H.G. Wells on audiobook today and it’s both cool and sometimes difficult to listen to the old timey English. Like it’s close enough to be familiar and mostly understood, but also different enough to sound like a whole other language.

    Language evolves and I think that’s cool. The more people we have and the more ways of communicating, the more it will evolve.

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    Meeting the kids are why I don’t care about global warming anymore.