Rogan promoted the conspiracy theory that Epps was an “agent provocateur” for the feds, a baseless claim that has led to a defamation suit against Fox News.

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    So the FBI, the one that was ran by a trump appointee, staged a false flag coup. And instead of doing something to stop it trump did nothing. And I’m supposed to believe democrats are responsible? If democrats managed to infultrate the FBI and attack the capital why was trump too incompetent to do anything about it and why did he care that someone died if she was just antifa pretending to be a trump follower?

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      Let’s imagine an alternate scenario for a second. Let’s say there was a Black Lives Matter protest and they broadcast the same stuff that these guys did. “Come to the capital protest!” “It will be wild!” Etc. Then let’s say AOC got up there and said “lets march to the capital!”… Imagine this happened while Trump is in office… and you know for a FACT there would have been tanks in the street and attack helicopters in the air and solders with guns drawn before then even got close to the capital.

      The lack of response is how you know this was a Trump planned event. Only a fucking moron would not see the obvious.

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        There was an actual black lives matter protest in Washington DC so your armchair fantasy doesn’t hold water.

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          Was this the one where the police gased and hurt people? I think this was around the time Trump held the bible upside down for a photo op in front a church.

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          Oh yes, I remember when BLM protesters broke into the Capitol Building while chanting, “hang Mike Pence,” stealing things and smearing shit on the walls.

          Oh wait, that was the people who hated BLM protesters.

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      The accusation isn’t that they staged a false flag. The accusation is that they used CIs as agent provocateurs. It’s interesting that a bit of word magic will make the left deny something happened even though it’s been a common tactic used for decades at least.

      LEO agents intentionally incite crowds so they can claim them as unlawful and disperse them.

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        You’re telling me that trump lost control of his appointees before he left the white house or that he was the one who ordered leo’s to provoke the riot? No matter how you try to spin Jan 6th it falls on trumps shoulders. And we know the government provokes shit it just so happens that this time it was done in plain sight and the right is denying it. We heard his speeches and read his tweets too.

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          What are you fucking smoking? Read my words, not your made up fucking opponent’s.

          I’m telling you that the accusations were that one or more CIs were used by LEO to incite riots, which we all recognize is standard operating procedure. This isn’t a crazy accusation. That was all I said and if you make up more shit to pretend I said I’m not going to continue bothering.

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              This is the internet. You’re allowed to swear. I just happen to respond to dishonest bullshit strongly.

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                What’s dishonest about pointing out that if the FBI provoked the riot it was either trump who ordered it or trump who ignored it? Who do you think was in charge on Jan 6th if not tangerine palpatine?

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                  Who do you think was in charge on Jan 6th if not tangerine palpatine?

                  I don’t know and I honestly haven’t looked into it deeply. I’m not really commenting on that. I’m also unsure why you think the guy Trump appointed would help him after he lost the election. Nobody with the credentials to run the FBI is gonna treason for last year’s president.

                  I think the headline is overstating it. Nobody has to order LEO or their informants to incite crowds. It’s a thing they do. You’re assuming they were expecting insurrection, whict I don’t think they were. Hanlon’s Razor seems appropriate. They did their standard fedboi bullshit and it got way bigger than they expected. I just don’t think it’s unreasonable or a wild conspiracy theory to think LEO used tactics we’ve seen them use in every major city in ths US.

                  The FBI are not good people and we shouldn’t cuddle up to them because they’re putting the ‘right’ people in jail right now.

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                    M8 all this article is is a shitty attempt to throw someone under the bus and brand them deep state and you’re buying it so hard.

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              I avoid the stuff. Never liked it much. I avoid opiates for the opposite reason. Also I’d probably intentionally OD.

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        I remember all the LEOs there trying to disperse the crowds.

        Oh wait, the LEOs were equally (or greater) in the crowds, and the others were taking down crowd control methods and escorting people into the capitol.

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        They do that when they have enough forces to put them down. The only reason these assholes left was because Trump told them to on Twitter.

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          They think they always have the forces to stop a riot. Hell, they mostly don’t have to. They just want a reason to declare it unlawful and shut it down.

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            Then why wasn’t the provocation followed by it being shut down? Why were they then allowed to walk through the Capital building and rifle through congressperson’s offices? Was all that part of the plan too?

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              Have any of you read what I said? It’s not unreasonable to think police used provocateurs. That’s it. I said nothing about the events that day until I was asked, and I did my best, but christ on a cracker I have no opinion otherwise. There are multiple ways many of the questions people ask can be reasonably explained.

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        Right, that LEO agent who told the crowd to march down to the Capitol and “fight like hell” to save the country was a real provocateur. Someone should indict him with a grand jury for it.