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ArmchairAce1944@lemmy.ca to News@lemmy.world · 9 days ago

Robert F Kennedy Jr. says Arabs don’t produce science or literature

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US Secretary of Health Robert F Kennedy Jr. has said that Arabs don’t produce science, literature, or win Nobel prizes.
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    Heroin Bobby with the Grandpa Joe aura

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    Folks there really is no reason to go all the way back to the Islamic Golden Age to disprove this fool. There are many many Arab scientists and writers alive and kicking at this moment right now.

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      He is recycling the same islamophobic shit that flooded the internet in the two years after 9/11. The arguments are 100% 2001-2003 era.

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    I thought his brain was just so addled that he fucked his speech up. He tried to say the Muslim Brotherhood caused all Muslims to stop contributing to society. He’s mentally ill and racist, basically.

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      Racist for sure. But do not excuse his behavior as ‘mentally Ill’ he knows EXACTLY what he is doing.

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    He doesn’t seem to know who brought the alphabet to Europe…

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      The Phoenicians?

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        Who do you think the Phoenicians were? Do you think a sea faring people wouldn’t have picked up different nationalities? That’s why racism is so stupid.

        On the original point:

        Mathematics during the Golden Age of Islam, especially during the 9th and 10th centuries, was built upon syntheses of Greek mathematics (Euclid, Archimedes, Apollonius) and Indian mathematics (Aryabhata, Brahmagupta). Important developments of the period include extension of the place-value system to include decimal fractions, the systematised study of algebra and advances in geometry and trigonometry.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematics_in_the_medieval_Islamic_world

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          alphabet

          posts stuff about algebra

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            I mean, yes, but note how the word algebra has arabic roots

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        The Phoenician alphabet descends from the Proto-Sinaitic script though. So a bunch of nomads developed Egyptian hieroglyphs into a script to write proto-Canaanite inscriptions, which was the common ancestor of the Paleo-Hebrew alphabet, the Ancient South Arabian script, and the Phoenician alphabet

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      How about the number system , we all be using Roman number system if it wasn’t for Arab mathematics.

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        Technically Arabs just brought over the Indian system. Would be fun if e.g. Slavs brought it instead, and it would be called Slavic numerals.

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          didn’t Arabs also introduce zero?

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            I don’t know how one would have a positional numeral notation without zero, even if it’s denoted by an empty space. Sure enough, reportedly the symbol for zero appeared in the Hindu numerals, derived from the non-positional Brahmi system. Although apparently both ancient Babylon and China already had their own positional notations, both with a space for zero.

            Arabs added a system for fractions instead.

    • Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Or liquor

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      Algebra

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    Just written language, math, and the basic foundation of scientific advancement. Without those things, the brain worm might have prevented us from having to deal with him.

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      All right, but aside from written language, math and basic foundation of scientific advancement, what have the Arabs ever done for us?!

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        Aqueducts…?

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          Water you even saying?

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            Your humor is so dry

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              I want to make a joke about you making me moist, but instead I’ll just make a reference to making that joke as I think it’s less painful. lol. I get to make the joke AND have it not be quite as awkward. :)

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                Don’t worry… I’ll make it awkward

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                  If by awkward you mean awesome :)

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          Actually I believe the first recorded, archeological proof of an aqueduct goes back to Assyria, and then at some point the Romans copied the design and put them everywhere, all of this being LONG before Islam was even a thing. History is full of similar instances where the person/entity who famously used X was NOT the inventor, and instead stole it from someone else first

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            Arabs were also a thing before Islam.

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              Very true, but I don’t believe they used aqueducts. Or at least, they didn’t invent the idea, which is what I was pointing out

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        Chess?

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          Which, coincidentally, is originally Indian just like ‘Arabic numerals’.

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    Motherfucker the Arabs invented algebra.

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      Math is woke.

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        The poindexter mathematicians tell me 2+2=4, but that sounds elitist to me. I’m going to pray on it and see what Jesus says it is.

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          Some Christians are dangerously approaching Abecederianism.

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        Bro, nothing riles me up like fake math!

        As if x and y can be a number !

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      Al-gebra sounds scary

      /s

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        Try an Algae Bra

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          Sounds itchy

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      Too bad Algebra doesn’t have that much of a use, except, it complicates matters. Why do we even need it when basic mathematics cover about 90% of the things we need to calculate things by?

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        Edit of shame: Fuck, I fed the trolls.

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          You’re an embarrassment of a user. Algebra has little to no use, period. Deal with it.

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    Arabs invented science.

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      at the very least some numerals

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        They literally saved Greek science and mathematics from extinction during the dark ages. Sure, Arabic mathematics had its mini dark age when they decided everything should be human words only to make it easier to understand for humans, then they realized that wasn’t the way to go.

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        Most glassware you see in a modern chemistry lab. Oh and not to mention the stills used to make hard liquor.

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    Watch them try to ban Arabic numerals and force everyone to use Roman numbers again.

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      I really REALLY want this to happen. It would be such a perfect example of how incredibly ignorant they are and the complete lack of understanding they have for the world around them.

      Like the time a city banned “di-hydrogen monoxide” for like a day until they realized it was just a fancy name for H2O lol

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        It’s not even a fancy name, it’s very literally the scientific name of it…the shit you learn in high school science classes

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          Nice of you to assume that magats went to school.

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        Like the time a city banned “di-hydrogen monoxide” for like a day until they realized it was just a fancy name for H2O lol

        That’s not quite the story…

        Viejo, California put a proposal on its agenda to ban plastic foam containers over the chemicals used in making them. In the proposal they listed “dihydrogen monoxide”, among other things, presumably because they likely added it to the list after failing to identify a satire website, and it went viral, mostly in right-wing circles that hate anything that protects the environment.

        It never got past the proposal stage, and the “dihydrogen monoxide” part wasn’t even the reason why. They never actually banned water and had to walk that back, a Republican lied to you to make you think that.

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          I think my high school chemistry teacher told us that as a reason why it’s important to know the periodic table or something, idk what their political motivations were.

          But I guess even before AI stories were getting twisted and changed to fit narratives or serve personal purposes. Thanks for the info tho, always good to know more info.

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      But I really like zero.

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      Ave, true to Caesar!

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    Robert F. Kennedy admits he is an ignorant fool when it comes to discussing science and literature.

    FtFY

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    Coming from someone who is about as bright as the inside of a black hole, sounds about right for worm brain.

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      The inside of a blackhole probably is “bright” considering it hoovers up all the light in the vicinity lol

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      a wormhole rfk jr is.

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    That was a painful watch.

    But lets break this down:

    His argument is that hatred, war, and victimization cause a reduction in contribution to science and literature.

    You asshole, quit pointing your fingers at others and start cleaning up your own damn house.

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      Republican brain time: That means Donald Trump is a secret Arab!

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      His argument is that hatred, war, and victimization cause a reduction in contribution to science and literature.

      I mean, in general, that’s not exactly wrong.

      But the fact that these stupid apes are the ones talking about anyone or anywhere else is so absurd, given they are actively carrying out actions causing a historic brain drain in America. Him making generic claims about 500M people is really quite a choice, given what a handful of dipshits like him in this administration are carrying out.

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    I mean Abdul Alhazred wrote the Necronomicon, which I consider to be both science and literature.

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      Praise be to Yog Sothoth!

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      And let’s not forget Dick Dale’s contributions to music.

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    What science or literature has Brainworms produced?

    All I see this asshat doing is trying to sabotage proven medicine we already have, set American research back decades, and generally carry on with the conservative project of trying to roll back the Enlightenment as whole.

    He can go fuck himself. It’s fine if he’s not producing science himself, but at the very least, he should get the fuck out of the way of those that can. Certainly, he should shut the fuck up about what others produce when he beclowns himself on the regular when he talks about science.

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      how to convince people to do heroin most likely.

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    I heard The Dems were trying to get kids in school to use Arabic numerals

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      Gaasp!

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    algebra chemistry alcohol

    Rfk knows one of those words. But he doesn’t know they’re Arabic words.

    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Category:English_terms_derived_from_Arabic

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_words_of_Arabic_origin

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_in_the_medieval_Islamic_world

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_modern_Arab_scientists_and_engineers

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pre-modern_Arab_scientists_and_scholars

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      Gauze comes from Gaza.

      Just last year Omar M. Yaghi, a Palestinian, won the Nobel Prize in Chemistry.

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      Ah I didn’t know chemistry was one

      Edit: nm I forgot – alchemy!

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      TIL: candy is an Arab word!

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