All good 9/11 truther is about if the bush admin did/didn’t know about 9/11 and let it happen and the extent the Saudi government was involved (spoiler: heavily)
Al Qaeda: Osama Bin Laden, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, and Mohamed Atta were the architects and orchestrators of the attacks and the planes took down all buildings that day. There were no bombs, thermite, controlled explosions, cruise missiles, ect. Flight 93 was taken down when the hijackers intentionally crashed the plane after the passengers rallied to try and seize the plane
Popular Mechanics has a great book and abridged article covering the physics of how the towers and other buildings fell
The best free, long form explanation on the building collapse is the WTYP 9/11 special which also features a bonus treat of the hosts live reacting to the news of Ruth Bader Ginsbergs death
The r/911archive subreddit is a highly moderated and excellent resource and all topics related to 9/11
I’m a 9/11 head and can answer questions with first hand sources if anybody has any
There actually were 5 or so Mossad spies in NYC/NJ at the time conducting surveillance on the united states and terror plots, and witnesses did describe them as acting cheerfully, they were charged with being in the country illegally and deported. None of this is really enough to say Israeli govt was directly involved. Mossad is fascist and the 5 probably just liked watching people die, or were happy to know the US was about to get more involved in middle east affairs
No jews in the tower is just a straight up antisemitic falsehood. Hundreds of jews died that day, many showing tremendous bravery
The physics of the building 7 collapse are well explained. Building 7 was not a priority for fire fighters and was allowed to burn for many hours, causing structural weakness. NIST report. Another hole in the theory is what would the possible reason for the government blowing up a small office building next to the twin towers been? I’ve never seen a compelling motive
bodies blown out onto nearby rooftops in areas that supposedly just had office fires
i was referring to video evidence of an area that did not suffer collapse or explosions yet at that time, only office fires.
so much anti-“truther” crap is just people making uncharitable leaps without doing research and defaulting to the official narrative out of normalcy bias
how has 3 years of Israeli gaslighting, lies and genocide and obviously true and correct Zionist conspiracies not opened your eyes at all yet, still defaulting to George W. Bush’s appointed bullshit cover-up panel as if it’s an authority.
i clearly don’t know what the hell argument you’re relitigating here, that thread wasn’t even linked, dude.
i’m relating OP to general grains that are very common in 9/11 truther shit, not all of them are about limbs and explosions: jet fuel and steel beams, aircraft impressions in buildings after crashes, the characteristics of asbestos, etc. etc. etc.
9/11 trutherism is infested by knowitall dingbats that don’t have the first clue how things “should” look declaring it was staged based on vibes. i don’t rightly know that applies to you, but you didn’t make a good first impression.
the user above is directly quoting my comment from another thread
that stuff is just minor window dressing anyway, the core truth that Mossad and CIA were heavily involved and knew of it beforehand and helped plan it, helped train and fund the organizations responsible, participated in a cover-up to hide these connections & then took advantage of the spectacle and terror to invade unrelated parties is indisputable. They had the Patriot Act and Iraq War already drafted up and ready, and the second 9/11 happened they hit go.
certainly, my point is i find it worrisome when people emphasize and focus a lot on the mechanics of the operation, because it usually introduces wrong ideas.
the politics are both mostly unfalsifiable and introduce doubt around state power so i don’t think it’s very offensive. my opinion is that it’s not a very effective grain to focus on in 2026 but it’s whatever if that’s how you want to convince people the CIA is bad
No, but as my friend who went on to work as an engineer in the aerospace industry for Boeing then the billionaires (because we grew up on Star Wars) explained very calmly, the point at which something melts and something loses structural integrity are two very different temperatures.
The user is referencing my comment and I did not say that there were no Jews in the tower, I said that prominent Israelis were conspicuously missing. Which is objectively a fact, as referenced later in this very thread. Why are you doing the zionist thing of twisting anti-Israel posts into anti-semtisim?
You can’t just handwaive away mossad agents illegally being in the right place at the right time for the most spectacular terror attack in history to “monitor terror”. Nor can you handwaive away the decades long extensive intelligence connections between Al Qaeda, Mossad and CIA - who have always been allies since their inception and always worked collaboratively together both before and after 9/11.
You want me to believe that Al Qaeda just became legitimately anti-USA for 1 day in 2001? Come on. We invaded unrelated countries (Iraq, Afghanistan) precisely because we were allied with the people who actually did it (Saudi Arabia, Israel, ourselves).
I apologize for conflating Israelis and Jews. I am use to seeing right wing 9/11 conspiracy theories where Israel is used as a shorthand for Jews and acted off instinct
I said that prominent Israelis were conspicuously missing. Which is objectively a fact
5 israeli citizens died on 9/11. 1 in the plane, 4 in the towers. Give me names of these prominent Israeli citizens that were supposed to be in the tower on the morning of the 11th but by coincidence were not
You can’t just handwaive away mossad agents illegally being in the right place at the right time for the most spectacular terror attack in history to “monitor terror”
Israel spies on the United States. It’s logical to assume they would have spies in New York City, it’s most prominent city, the headquarters of the UN and various other government and international agencies, a city which also experienced a terror attack in 1993
You want me to believe that Al Qaeda just became legitimately anti-USA for 1 day in 2001? Come on
My brother in Christ Al Qaeda tried to destroy the towers in 1993 and killed several people, wounding around 1,000, killed over 200 in the 1998 embassy bombings, and nearly sunk the USS Cole in 2000. Al Qaeda has a long history of attempting mass casualty incidents against the USA
All good 9/11 truther is about if the bush admin did/didn’t know about 9/11 and let it happen and the extent the Saudi government was involved (spoiler: heavily)
Al Qaeda: Osama Bin Laden, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, and Mohamed Atta were the architects and orchestrators of the attacks and the planes took down all buildings that day. There were no bombs, thermite, controlled explosions, cruise missiles, ect. Flight 93 was taken down when the hijackers intentionally crashed the plane after the passengers rallied to try and seize the plane
Eyewitness accounts with sources of people who saw the pentagon plane strike
GRAPHIC: Flight 93 cockpit recording which includes audio of the hijacking, ATC, passenger revolt, and final moments
Popular Mechanics has a great book and abridged article covering the physics of how the towers and other buildings fell
The best free, long form explanation on the building collapse is the WTYP 9/11 special which also features a bonus treat of the hosts live reacting to the news of Ruth Bader Ginsbergs death
The r/911archive subreddit is a highly moderated and excellent resource and all topics related to 9/11
I’m a 9/11 head and can answer questions with first hand sources if anybody has any
15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi citizens.
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Your responses nail everything
There actually were 5 or so Mossad spies in NYC/NJ at the time conducting surveillance on the united states and terror plots, and witnesses did describe them as acting cheerfully, they were charged with being in the country illegally and deported. None of this is really enough to say Israeli govt was directly involved. Mossad is fascist and the 5 probably just liked watching people die, or were happy to know the US was about to get more involved in middle east affairs
No jews in the tower is just a straight up antisemitic falsehood. Hundreds of jews died that day, many showing tremendous bravery
Graphic: Footage of a jewish volunteer EMS service running into the collapsing towers
The physics of the building 7 collapse are well explained. Building 7 was not a priority for fire fighters and was allowed to burn for many hours, causing structural weakness. NIST report. Another hole in the theory is what would the possible reason for the government blowing up a small office building next to the twin towers been? I’ve never seen a compelling motive
To be crass, this is dumb. A massive sky scraper collapsed and it’d tremendous force sent debris everywhere. A piece of one of the planes was found only over a decade later a block and a half away from the towers
so much 9/11 crap is just fundamentally misunderstanding physics i kind of think dipping a few grains into the topic makes people a bit stupider tbh
i was referring to video evidence of an area that did not suffer collapse or explosions yet at that time, only office fires.
so much anti-“truther” crap is just people making uncharitable leaps without doing research and defaulting to the official narrative out of normalcy bias
how has 3 years of Israeli gaslighting, lies and genocide and obviously true and correct Zionist conspiracies not opened your eyes at all yet, still defaulting to George W. Bush’s appointed bullshit cover-up panel as if it’s an authority.
i clearly don’t know what the hell argument you’re relitigating here, that thread wasn’t even linked, dude.
i’m relating OP to general grains that are very common in 9/11 truther shit, not all of them are about limbs and explosions: jet fuel and steel beams, aircraft impressions in buildings after crashes, the characteristics of asbestos, etc. etc. etc.
9/11 trutherism is infested by knowitall dingbats that don’t have the first clue how things “should” look declaring it was staged based on vibes. i don’t rightly know that applies to you, but you didn’t make a good first impression.
the user above is directly quoting my comment from another thread
that stuff is just minor window dressing anyway, the core truth that Mossad and CIA were heavily involved and knew of it beforehand and helped plan it, helped train and fund the organizations responsible, participated in a cover-up to hide these connections & then took advantage of the spectacle and terror to invade unrelated parties is indisputable. They had the Patriot Act and Iraq War already drafted up and ready, and the second 9/11 happened they hit go.
certainly, my point is i find it worrisome when people emphasize and focus a lot on the mechanics of the operation, because it usually introduces wrong ideas.
the politics are both mostly unfalsifiable and introduce doubt around state power so i don’t think it’s very offensive. my opinion is that it’s not a very effective grain to focus on in 2026 but it’s whatever if that’s how you want to convince people the CIA is bad
Jet fuel doesn’t melt steel beams!
No, but as my friend who went on to work as an engineer in the aerospace industry for Boeing then the billionaires (because we grew up on Star Wars) explained very calmly, the point at which something melts and something loses structural integrity are two very different temperatures.
The user is referencing my comment and I did not say that there were no Jews in the tower, I said that prominent Israelis were conspicuously missing. Which is objectively a fact, as referenced later in this very thread. Why are you doing the zionist thing of twisting anti-Israel posts into anti-semtisim?
You can’t just handwaive away mossad agents illegally being in the right place at the right time for the most spectacular terror attack in history to “monitor terror”. Nor can you handwaive away the decades long extensive intelligence connections between Al Qaeda, Mossad and CIA - who have always been allies since their inception and always worked collaboratively together both before and after 9/11.
You want me to believe that Al Qaeda just became legitimately anti-USA for 1 day in 2001? Come on. We invaded unrelated countries (Iraq, Afghanistan) precisely because we were allied with the people who actually did it (Saudi Arabia, Israel, ourselves).
I apologize for conflating Israelis and Jews. I am use to seeing right wing 9/11 conspiracy theories where Israel is used as a shorthand for Jews and acted off instinct
5 israeli citizens died on 9/11. 1 in the plane, 4 in the towers. Give me names of these prominent Israeli citizens that were supposed to be in the tower on the morning of the 11th but by coincidence were not
Israel spies on the United States. It’s logical to assume they would have spies in New York City, it’s most prominent city, the headquarters of the UN and various other government and international agencies, a city which also experienced a terror attack in 1993
My brother in Christ Al Qaeda tried to destroy the towers in 1993 and killed several people, wounding around 1,000, killed over 200 in the 1998 embassy bombings, and nearly sunk the USS Cole in 2000. Al Qaeda has a long history of attempting mass casualty incidents against the USA
That 1993 attack was also CIA and Mossad
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