• blazera@kbin.social
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    11 months ago

    It sounds like this rambling doesnt involve me.
    im voting for someone that supports ranked choice.

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      11 months ago

      Which would be who? For what position?

      If the answer is “no one” then why should any elected person care about you?

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        11 months ago

        Why should they care if they can safely take your vote for granted no matter what they do?

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          11 months ago

          safely

          Have you ever voted in a primary? That’s where decisions are made. Once you get to the “actual” election, then no there are no real choices.

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            Of course I vote in the primaries.

            It’s where I get to see party leadership most directly oppose progressives.

            Gloat harder.

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              Of course it’s where Dems will most oppose anyone you like. After primaries it’s Dems versus Republicans. It’s wild you’d think it would be different.

              Gloat would imply I’m happy about the current arrangement. There was a scientist in antarctica who had to perform surgery on himself. Do you think he was gloating before the surgery finished? No, the political environment sucks right now. I want it changed, because if it keeps trending the way it does right now, I’ll be killed. Doing nothing isn’t a solution to my problems.

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        11 months ago

        probly Jill Stein. Unless someone better that also supports ranked choice or proportional representation shows up.

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          11 months ago

          believes Wi-Fi is bad for health.
          Wants to starve people and drive up food prices because she doesn’t understand what GMO means, or doesn’t care to clarify.
          Green party endorses fracking?
          Suspect stance on Ukraine
          Suspect stance on vaccines

          I’m not saying biden has a better aggregate stance. I am saying you have a chance in a liberal government. But you don’t in a conservative one.

          You’re spinning your wheels, and you’re going to go nowhere. Making people only pay attention to president is one of the best psyops

          spoiler

          (no evidence, it’s just funnier to believe)
          ::: that the Dems made so people like you vote so they stay in power.

          I seriously thought you had a local candidate who was going to push for that. There have been several local elections where they had ran on and implemented something besides first past the post system.

          If you want change in a system this big there are only 2 routes. Slow and voting local so your party gains steam, or violence. I’m not going to advocate for violence.

          What do you think the outcome of voting for her is going to be.

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            11 months ago

            Its a bit of a cart before the horse thing. As fundamental as policy positions on things like economics, healthcare, education etc are, how the government is run and elected has to come first if you want any of that to happen. Like you can promote the most die hard environmentalist candidate, but because our system has lobbying and corporate financed elections, that poisons your efforts from the outset. You have to get rid of the lobbying first. I think our FPTP 2 party system is something that poisons any efforts on any political issue. Like i said id love to support someone with better political stances and voting reform, but i have to support voting reform first. And anyone that wants to outlaw lobbying too.

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              cart before the horse

              I agree, that’s what I’ve been saying…but if you want a better democracy you need to maintain the democracy. Biden losing means a risk of losing that democracy status. In this instance I’m not voting for Biden, as much as I’m voting against a dictator.

              I am saying voting 3rd party is better than not voting at all. I’m also saying keeping USA sliding away from democracy is more important.

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          11 months ago

          LOL, she’s running as Green Party again. If you vote for Stein in the general, that’s basically a vote for Republicans.