“We recognize that, in the next four years, our decision may cause us to have an even more difficult time. But we believe that this will give us a chance to recalibrate, and the Democrats will have to consider whether they want our votes or not.”

That’s gotta be one of the strangest reasonings I’ve heard in a while.

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    We get them back by reminding them of exactly what has been done for them and the realities of the alternative,

    Right. Tell them to be grateful for genocide and scream that they want trump.

    as well as opening a dialog on what reasonable concessions can be made (if any).

    That would be something to try. The party won’t. They’ll skip straight to this:

    If that doesn’t work, then clearly, there was no way of turning them, and they should be cut loose.

    And then act like they tried everything they could and blame them for any losses.

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      Right. Tell them to be grateful for genocide and scream that they want trump

      No, by reminding them that “hey we are the party that stops you from actively being deported and barred from entering the country.”

      That’s a damn convincing argument if there ever was one, and honestly if they aren’t convinced it won’t be a problem anymore since they won’t be around next election cycle anyway after another round of republican rule…

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        No, by reminding them that “hey we are the party that stops you from actively being deported and barred from entering the country.”

        When Democrats had control of both houses and the presidency, what legislation did they introduce to stop Muslims from being deported and barred from entry into the country? What did they put into place to keep the next bigoted turd from implementing a Muslim ban?

        Oh, and they’re funding a genocide?

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          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NO_BAN_Act

          They did this…it passed in the house and has been stuck in committees for ages

          As for funding genocide…yeah the Democratic party has a problem in that most voters lean towards Palestine and the party doesn’t, but its also a relatively “new” issue in the eyes of the public (most people didn’t think about Israel or Palestine before this for any amount of time), so who knows? Maybe things shift as things go on

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            They did this…it passed in the house and has been stuck in committees for ages

            Looks like it was introduced by Democrats during the Trump administration and then reintroduced and silently killed during the Biden administration. In fairness, it was in fact introduced. I’ll give them credit for that.

            As for funding genocide…yeah the Democratic party has a problem in that most voters lean towards Palestine and the party doesn’t

            Wouldn’t be the first time that the party acted contrary to the will of their voters and then demanded support anyway. But genocide is the issue this time. That’s an extremely bitter pill to swallow, and it’s disturbing to discover how many in your own party love the taste.

            Maybe things shift as things go on

            Democrats don’t shift left.

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              It all rolls back to the same problem in the end:

              The dems don’t need to care until the Republicans stop being utter garbage, or enough of the population forces them to reconsider at once. We are. ot there yet so the best course of action is to aid the party that won’t take away your rights to vote.

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                The dems don’t need to care until the Republicans stop being utter garbage

                You forgot to add “lol”