• MagicShel@lemmy.zip
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    10 hours ago

    you guys really need to focus on other, more practical solutions like better public transports and less car-centric infrastructure and laws.

    Your solution is on the scale of decades — almost certainly over 100 years. None of our infrastructure is set up for this outside of cities that most of us have no interest in living in.

    We certainly need more interim projects like electric cars and green energy.

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      9 hours ago

      The problem is I haven’t seen much news of projects other than those types of interim projects that focus on electric cars. I mean, they spent millions of dollars on the Vegas Loop instead of on more sane public transport projects. America has a very unhealthy focus on electric cars because of their car-centric mindset and I don’t see it changing any time soon unless people start pushing back on it.

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        9 hours ago

        Most of us don’t want to live in cities or put our mobility in the hands of others. People who want it for everyone are primarily city folks who are used to that lifestyle. Those ideas are less popular with the people who would be most affected.

        I know eventually the world will go that way and it’ll be a good thing, but I’m also glad I won’t live to see it because I have no desire whatsoever to live that way. The change will be generational. If folks try to impose it, there is going to be a lot of resistance and pushback. You have to get folks to want it.

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          9 hours ago

          More public transports benefits not only people who use public transports, but also people who use cars. You have the typical car-centric mindset that makes it harder for your country to progress in that area.

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            9 hours ago

            I know I’m certainly part of the problem. But it’s a chicken and egg problem. You have to make people want to change while the change will be inconvenient short term. I don’t know how that happens, other than very slowly over time.

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              8 hours ago

              Well, you could try and stop thinking that people are trying to make you use public transport and more along the line of not forcing you or anyone to use their car to go anywhere in a practical way. And imagine the improvement to traffic and safety once people who hates driving or not good at it are no longer forced to drive on the same road as you.

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                Gods, this is how I sell public transit to pro car people.

                I am traffic. I want to be off the road and in a bus.

                I just don’t want my bus ride to be over an hour and a half long when the car ride is 10 minutes.

                I’ll settle for a bike commute because that’s 30 minutes but it would require riding down a major road where the only thing protecting me from a car going 60 MPH is a painted white line and trust.

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                  5 hours ago

                  Yep, all we want are more options other than driving. A good cycling and pedestrian infrastructure even helps in making sure they’re out of the road and not in the way of cars, something I’m sure a lot of car-centric people would actually be happy about. It’s a net positive for everyone.