Despite his “no” vote, the Senate deal to reopen the government bears Schumer’s fingerprints

Either Schumer no longer has effective control over own his caucus, or he has permitted the deal to progress with a wink and a nod behind the scenes — and with a strident disavowal for the bank of cameras he famously loves — while taking Democratic voters for fools.

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    Chuck Schumer voted against the capitulation. Blame the Senators who voted for it.

    Put aside your axe to grind with Schumer and make statements that reflect reality.

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      Ain’t no fucking way Chuck Schumer isn’t responsible for this. That motherfucker has been doing shit like this for a while. But, let’s be fair and say, for some fucking reason, that Schumer had nothing to do with this. Then he has absolutely no control over his party, and he should go.

      Like, either he sucks at his job and needs to go or he coordinated this and needs to go. And I no longer think he is bad at his job. Out of touch? Yes. A fucking dipshit? Yes. But bad at his job? No. I am not stupid enough to believe that for one second.

      Which means we need to replace every Dem senator with progressives. Every senator should be followed everywhere by homeless people in their state. They should be seated next to starving families in restaurants. They should be forced to share medical treatments with the people whose healthcare they just sacrificed.

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        Ain’t no fucking way Chuck Schumer isn’t responsible for this. That motherfucker has been doing shit like this for a while. But, let’s be fair and say, for some fucking reason, that Schumer had nothing to do with this. Then he has absolutely no control over his party, and he should go.

        Is that a joke? Senators are independent human beings, Schumer doesn’t have a mind control device.

        He did EXACTLY what you all said you wanted him to do. Now, the goalposts have been shifted so you can continue to grind that axe. It’s bad faith.

        Like, either he sucks at his job and needs to go or he coordinated this and needs to go. And I no longer think he is bad at his job. Out of touch? Yes. A fucking dipshit? Yes. But bad at his job? No. I am not stupid enough to believe that for one second.

        Do you have any actual PROOF that Schumer engineered the capitulation? Your personal opinions on the matter aren’t really what’s under discussion here. Just vague and unsubstantiated accusations, pretty Trumpian if you ask me.

        Which means we need to replace every Dem senator with progressives.

        Keep living in a fucking dream world. Any honest person knows that that is an impossibility. You’re going to hold out for something that can’t happen and in the meantime, Republicans will continue to control the country. It is BEYOND fucking stupid.

        Why do we need to replace all the moderate Democrats that did EXACTLY what you said you wanted them to do?

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          Ain’t no fucking way you’re not a troll.

          Why do we need to replace all the moderate Democrats that did EXACTLY what you said you wanted them to do?

          Because they didn’t do what I wanted them to do. Obviously. Did you not read?

          Do you have any actual PROOF that Schumer engineered the capitulation? Your personal opinions on the matter aren’t really what’s under discussion here. Just vague and unsubstantiated accusations, pretty Trumpian if you ask me.

          Like, either he sucks at his job and needs to go or he coordinated this and needs to go.

          Idk, man, it’s literally right there.

          You should try harder?

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      The deal was the Republicans got their eight votes from senators that aren’t up for election soon.

      It always goes something like that. It’s never 30-40 senators or house members from the opposing side that vote for something when a deal is reached. It’s always just enough, with the votes coming from the ones most able to take the hit due to not being up for election next time, in a safe seat, very high popularity, etc.

      Even when the minority leader admits to being part of the deal, they aren’t necessarily part of the group voting for it.

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        The deal was the Republicans got their eight votes from senators that aren’t up for election soon.

        And the proof that Schumer engineered it? Does he control every member of the party or not?

        That’s a lot of convenient assumptions that prevent you from having to examine your preconceived notions.