• TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    I think if you don’t know the roll AIPAC has played in modern politics, it’s on you to go get a baseline education. It s not something some one should have to educate you on in a short form post. They’ve played a transformative role in US politics and are practicing why we can’t have nice things as a country.

    I’m not saying the interest isn’t valid, but I also feel like understanding AIPAC is table stakes in US politics

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      4 hours ago

      I’m not saying the influence of AIPAC isn’t important, but I feel like being a patronizing twat instead of seizing a moment to help educate someone on the topic isn’t a great way to welcome people to the cause.

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        46 minutes ago

        To be fair, he WAS being a patronizing twat to a patronizing twat who keeps hinting that any criticism of AIPAC might be antisemitic like the Dem leadership keeps doing every time anyone criticizes their favorite fascist apartheid regime.

        Also, politeness or lack of same aside, AIPAC IS big and influential enough that there’s no excuse to not know about them when discussing American politics and prejudice against Muslim politicians.

        It’s the equivalent of never having heard of Citizens United, the Heritage Foundation, or the Federalist Society.

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          Exactly and I’m not even saying that it’s not ok to be interested, just that, like if you don’t know who or what AIPAC is coming into a political discussion forum, this ain’t the place to start.

          Like you couldn’t have gotten through 2023-2025 being even adjacent to politics and not have developed some understanding of the role in US politics.

          And, honestly, it’s hard to evaluate how important AIPAc really is to US politics. We readily acknowledge things like the Heritage foundation or project for a new American century, but we rarely discuss what interests are have idealogically captured the Democratic party.

          I’m trying to find the exact quote, because I heard it referenced on a podcast and I’m not sure Schumer actually said this, but the circumstantial evidence is strong, that Schumer specifically did not endorse Mamdani because he sees his primary role as serving Israel. I want to dig into this more later because that’s an astonishing admission if true.