Republicans asked a federal court to block newly approved maps in California that were designed to flip as many as five House seats for Democrats.

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    states can refuse to hand over income taxes

    Why do I keep seeing this posted? That’s not how income taxes work. The state does not collect income tax on behalf of the feds.

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      No, but I think the idea is that the state will collect federal taxes in escrow and then say they will protect the state’s citizens from federal prosecution. The taxes are there and collected but the state is showing its value to the United States monetarily. It’s absolutely not lawful but none of this shit is. Not in any good faith measure at least.

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        I think the idea is that the state will collect federal taxes in escrow

        That’s not how the IRS works. Never has been.

        It’s absolutely not lawful but none of this shit is

        It’s not feasible. What are you even proposing? That the New York State Government try and seize federal tax revenue from IRS offices in the state? Given how much money is functionally digital, I’m not even sure how that would work.

        Might as well say they should nationalize the NYSE while you’re at it.

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          I think every reasonable person knows that it isn’t how it works currently. People are saying that it’s what could and maybe should happen. Individuals have an escrow account created and monitored by the state to send their federal taxes into. It’s on the individual to be correct and maintain a receipt but then it always is anyway, isn’t it? It is not exactly uncomplicated but it’s not impossible. I’m not arguing for people doing it, but as an extreme measure to choke the federal government, yeah. I could get on board with it.

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      Typically the state government is the largest single employer in any given state. If California withheld all their public employees’s federal income tax, Uncle Sam would feel that pretty sharply, especially if joined by New York and New England.

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        If California withheld all their public employees’s federal income tax

        The payroll system is fully privatized. California bureaucrats don’t control it, they just submit information to private banks and payment processors.

        Again, you don’t understand how the IRS actually functions. Or how HR and payroll function. There isn’t a big toggle under the governor’s desk that stops W-2 withholdings for every state employee.

        If you tried to do this inside a single company, you’d be setting off alarms in whatever bank or accounting firm you contracted to process paychecks. Even just an individual trying to zero out withholdings with get a dirty look from HR and a polite deny.

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          The ‘big toggle under the governors desk’ is sending law enforcement to all the banks and forcing them to reroute all money that would otherwise go to the IRS. Comply or go to jail and we close your bank down for a couple days and cost you billions for good measure.