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        Im not sure why eveyone keeps blindly recommending mint, yeah it works great if you only do document editing and web browsing but it kinda undersells Linux.

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          It’s very easy to jump into (coming from Windows), and it comes with a lot of game compatibility.

          The only reason I switched to SteamOS was because Yad was very outdated on Mint and every attempt I made failed. The dependency list to attempt to upgrade it was also pretty substantial.

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              Although it’s not considered officially supported, you can absolutely install it on your PC. It’s been working great for me. The only hangup was disabling read-only mode for editing the OS and changing the default boot up behavior (start in desktop, not big screen mode). Other than those two things, it’s pretty much been plug and play.

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            Yeah I also dont get that either, what exactly makes it so easy to switch over? If anything having a UI so close to Windows just makes it frustrating when not everything is identical.

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            There are a few key things I would argue you’re missing out on:

            1. Up to date software: Mint is pretty out of date and the desktop is severely oudated
            2. A modern interface built on modern software: Specifically im referring to Wayland (which effects multiple monitor setups, VRR, gestures, HDR, and scaling)
            3. Functionality: Following Windows in terms of functionality is a massive limitation, it holds back what could be to what already is. KDE and Gnome are implementing runners (search based application launcher), gestures, widgets, extensions, and advanced shortcuts (cosmic even has tiling).
            4. Design philosophy: Windows is absolutely not the pinnacle of good design and Cinnamon takes it to the next step by looking like Windows 7 but with XP level blurry icons. Once again its clearly they’re restricted not just by Microsoft standards but outdated Microsoft standards.
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              1. Not usually a problem for most people, and flatpaks are built into the very slick and reliable GUI store to access newer versions.
              2. Legitimate issue for people who need those features, though the Wayland cinnamon session is making good progress.
              3. Those are fairly advanced features that most average users won’t take advantage of. Cinnamon actually has pretty fantastic widgets/extensions.
              4. Having a familiar windows-like interface is an advantage for first time users, making the transition far smoother. Different paradigms can be explored after they are comfortable with Linux.

              For people dipping their toes into Linux, mint still has everyone beat. No other distro has such a polished onboarding experience, which already experienced Linux users tend to overlook.

              1. The welcome screen perfectly walks new users getting their system set up and usable, in particular it makes the GUI driver installer front and center to avoid Nvidia users trying to install the driver from the Nvidia website.
              2. The polish and stability of the updater tool and GUI store are not to be underestimated. KDE’s discover is clunky and Gnome’s software store is extremely slow in comparison.
              3. Every common use case is covered out of the box. There will be no hunting for codecs, filesystem support, firewall, samba, etc, which can be a problem on other other distro like Debian, Fedora, or Opensuse.
              4. Maintainence is simple, updates aren’t super frequent (important on internet limited areas), guides written forba newbie perspective are plentiful, most commercial software not in the repos will offer a simple .deb installer package.

              All of those things are critical to not burning a new user, and so far nothing has approached Mint’s mastery of onboarding, IMHO.

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              1. Very true
              2. Wayland still has a lot of problems to iron out, and that’s not something that will fly with most people as a Windows replacement.
              3. KDE and Gnome are bloated messes that have 29394 ways of doing anything, but not everything, which causes frustration in new migrants. They don’t want 12 different apps that each can do 70% of the possible options- they want one app that can do 100% (and isn’t terminal). Familiarity with windows is also a plus to them, as a migrant.
              4. Again, familiarity is a good thing for a migrant.

              You’re looking at it from the perspective of ‘is this the distro that has things I want’ which is, not to be rude, completely useless to the person actually migrating from windows.

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                All those things are nice for people who care about them. For people who just want their computer to work with minimal hassle, Mint is a great option.

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                Quite frankly if Wayland isnt good enough now it never will be, also Gnome and KDE both objectively have more GUI apps than Cinnamon.

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                  I still have daily issues with Wayland on Bazzite, so yikes.

                  Also, that’s my point- Cinnamon has one way to do it, and the doco all reflects that. GNOME/KDE each have 50, and the documentation tells you to use one app for this, another app for that, a third app for the other- it’s all kind of a mess for a new user that just wants their OS to stop being a barrier for whatever they want to do.

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              I was a long time mint user. And I loved it for a couple of years.

              But cinnamon just doesn’t really do it for me anymore. I’ve been using fedora kde for a bit and while it’s alright, I had issues with really shitty frame rates in like every game with my nvidia card. I think kubuntu may be my new seeet spot soon.

              Although opensuse does seem very interesting too. I should give that a go.

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                I can personally confirm OpenSuse is absolutely amazing, you get the advantage of bleeding edge with a reasonable amount of stability. Granted the themeing is a bit opinionated (if you love green you’ll love it) but you can always change that. Also lots of amazing GUI and TUI tools, they look kinda outdated but function very well.

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          One thing I’ve always disliked about linux as a consumer are the countless versions and the new flavors that seem to come out every few years. I don’t want to rediscover the wheel constantly or find my version has been abandoned by developers.

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            Mint has been around for almost 20 years and has been in the top few recommendations for people new to Linux for like 10 years, Ubuntu for more than 20. Nobody’s making you install Hannah Montana Linux.

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          I would never recommend it, but I won’t begrudge anyone Mint. As much as I loathe Cinnamon, it’s still a better choice than Ubuntu. Newcomers could do much worse.

          I still recommend Bazzite first and Fedora second. They always “just work” and even Mint has hardware support problems sometimes, especially on newer hardware.

          And happy cake day!

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          i’ve used mint for a few years, my first daily driver distro, mostly gaming, i’ve played through hl:alyx, for example, yes, in vr, on linux, without much linux knowledge
          now im on pop, i did a bunch of things to mint i didn’t understand, and it kind of broke, well, the gaming performance degraded, so i tried pop after, and i like it slightly better, so i’ve been using it since, 3-4 years i think.
          just to say, hard disagree on the “only docs and browsings” comment

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      Making that bootable USB was a pain. Needed a program to check the ISO. Download more files to check it against. Another program to mount it. Another program because the first doesn’t do Linux iso. MBR or GPT, didn’t even know about that.

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        Checkout ventoy. It can be used as a multiboot disk so you can try a bunch of distros or have backups of prior releases or even have testing/recovery images like clonezilla or memtest.

        MBR is older and might be more compatible with older computers it wouldn’t cause any problems, GPT is newer and if your computer was built in the last 10 years you might as well use it.

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          I discovered Ventoy a couple of months back, and spent far too long trying to work out how to use it to carry portable installations of both Kubuntu and Windows. But nope, can’t be done (so far as I can tell). Which is a shame, but hey ho.

          But yeah, for carrying around installers it’s absolutely bang on.

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            Sorry to hear you had issues using it that way but it’s totally possible and I have a windows 10 ISO on my Ventoy multiboot right now. Almost any ISO file should work in Ventoy assuming its a bootable ISO.

            Maybe your issue was you didn’t use UEFI which windows might require?

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              As in you have a fully operational Windows installation that you can boot into, alongside another fully bootable OS?

              Because that would be incredibly useful, but I was damned if could work it out.

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                I have a multiboot with many bootable ISOs.

                Meaning if I want to boot into windows or Ubuntu installation media, I can. This can be used to recover an install or start a new install.

                Most Linux install isos are live images that will let you use it like an ephemeral computer, but windows install isos don’t do that.

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        You do the same process for windows. Rufus will wipe away babys first tears. Microsoft gonna keep baby cozy and warm.

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    I mean, it’s not really fighting back. There’s nothing to win. You’re just ending a toxic relationship and getting your PC and digital wellbeing back to how things used to be.

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      Freedom, respect, privacy, money, … There’s lots to win. And it isn’t just going back to how things were: it’s going to places better than anywhere you’ve been.

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    I haven’t run Linux for probably 20 years until last week when I replaced my windows 10 with Tumbleweed. It’s definitely better than I remember for driver compatibility but it’s still not good enough for a general windows replacement.

    Videos don’t play without hiccups, sometimes my keyboard and mouse don’t work when the PC wakes up and I needed to install Mint in distrobox to get some software working.

    Also people have been trained to troubleshoot by clicking and Linux still mostly demands troubleshooting via the terminal and that’s a deal breaker for many people.

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        Yeah I think that’s probably the most common attitude amongst people comfortable with Linux but it’s not helpful for the “just install Linux” movement.

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          Idk I think it can be.

          I tell them not to be afraid of the terminal, but do be careful of sudo, and keep backups on a separate drive so worst case scenario you reinstall, it’s free. It’s not as scary as it seems, and if you put in a little effort (like literally just watch a few “linux terminal for beginners” or “bash for beginners” videos on youtube) it’ll soon become your preferred way to do a lot of shit very quickly, and at least if I’m wrong there you’ll be comfortable enough to fix your shit when you need to.

          But do keep those backups, because it’s entirely likely you’ll at least fuck one install up beyond repair (or at least beyond repair you can do right now while noob and a reinstall is trivial.) And don’t bother with vim at first, use nano until you “need” to upgrade from nano (if ever).

          I like to think that it’s more helpful then “trust me bro you’ll never need it” because it’s entirely likely that at some point they will, unless they just web browse. But it really isn’t that bad and they probably will love it when the fear subsides, happened to me, and to countless others before me.

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        Because there’s no global list of what will and won’t work so no way to know if Mint will be overall better or worse and I am completely disinterested in distrohopping.

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          i haven’t actually used tumbleweed or fedora except for booting a liveusb, but based on this thread, it’s a lot more complicated than mint, mint is really just install and use. the most “complicated” part is finding the stuff i want from the software manager, and maybe tweaking things to your liking. oh and if you have an nvidia card, you have to select the driver version you want to use in the built in driver manager

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          Opensuse tends to require more knowledge and manual setup for everything to work as expected, as an example, installing the Nvidia driver, common patent encumbered video codecs, and other commonly used software requires a third party repository to be installed first. Mint does not, it all just works out of the box.

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            Fedora works the same as suse in that regard and I’m gonna be honest it’s not a huge secret. If you search “what to do after installing fedora” there’s 300 listicles and “install nonfree repos” is like #3 after change hostname and update your system, and they just give you the commands/tutorial for all that. I imagine suse is much the same.

            Though I do think Fedora now has an “install nonfree repos” checkbox on install, but it wasn’t like that until like ver 40.

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              It’s not a big issue for someone technically inclined, but we often lose sight of how much of a barrier things like that can be for a more average user, who is also completely new to Linux. It’s not going to leave a good taste in their mouth to have to figure this stuff out right off, compared to Windows where it just works. That’s not to mention the increased difficulty of installing the Nvidia driver in either Opensuse, Fedora, or even standard Debian. To someone who has never had to install a new repo or use the command-line, it’s likely going to feel daunting and a big step back compared to windows, even if to us it’s no big deal.

              At the end of the day, Mint just doesn’t have those problems to solve, and doesn’t really have many practical downsides for most users, which makes it the ideal on boarding experience with the least friction, and thus the highest chance of a new user sticking with it.

              Though I do think Fedora now has an “install nonfree repos” checkbox on install

              Unfortunately that option only provides some non-free codecs, I still couldn’t play some video files when I tried it. I recall it took installing the VLC Flatpak (and ensure it’s not a Flatpak from the Fedora flatpaks repo, which bring their own problems), before I could finally play certain videos, but I already knew enough to even try that. A newbie probably wouldn’t know that the flatpak version would have its own codecs bundled in, and would have to do further research to figure out why a video isn’t playing even after enabling the non-free codec option in the install.

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                I really wouldn’t have described myself as technically inclined when googling “what to do after installing fedora” lol. I’m in the generation in between “never touched a computer because old” and “never touched a computer because iPhones,” so maybe that alone puts me above average, but within my age group I’m far from the best. I was also completely new to linux (android doesn’t count). I did however figure out how to copy/paste a few lines into the terminal and hit “enter” and “y” a few times though, windows also has copy/paste functionality so that transferred over.

                Mint is cool too, though. I just ended up going with Fedora and then FedoraKDE, and the extra modicum of setup with walkthroughs was easy (because of the walkthroughs mainly, but my point is they’re very visible.)

                Interesting you still had codec issues though, I’ve installed fedora a bunch of times over the years now and never once had that issue on regular vlc after running

                sudo dnf install gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free gstreamer1-plugins-ugly-free gstreamer1-plugins-good gstreamer1-plugins-base && sudo dnf install gstreamer1-plugins-bad-nonfree gstreamer1-plugins-ugly-nonfree && sudo dnf install lame && sudo dnf install ffmpeg gstreamer1-plugins-libav && sudo dnf install libdvdcss
                

                All of which I just copied and chained together from such a tutorial because of course I can’t remember all that (though I have a cleaner version in my “new system” script by now. I was just lazily providing an example instead of actually making it one pretty command, irl the newbie would simply run one after the other without the &&s anyway but you get what I mean). I’d be curious to know what still won’t run after all that, if you happen to know.

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                  I would say being willing to troubleshoot, find adequate directions, implement them, and even figuring out how to chain those commands together, would make you fairly technically inclined. At the very least it would make you unusually open-minded about learning and trying new things (being here on lemmy further points to that).

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          Well there’s “spin up a live usb and do some testing before your baremetal install” which is a crucial step that many ignore. But due to the nature of not being a proprietary OS installed by manufacturers who test things, instead being mostly up to the community to make things work, you’ll likely always have to do a little set up, or just buy a system76 with linux preinstalled and it’ll be closer for those who just can’t be bothered to do things for themselves.

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            I’m not complaining about my experience, I’m saying I don’t think Linux is ready to be a replacement for many Windows users.

            You clearly agree because you say “spin up a live USB and do some testing”.

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              Idk I don’t think windows users are as mentally handicapped as both we and those windows users themselves like to pretend, I think they’re just lazy.

              Excluding like the elderly and stuff who barely know more than a pen and paper, and seemingly now children who have never used anything but an iphone, but like, average people? I’d expect they can “learn things,” yes. Tbh windows isn’t as “just works” as advertised either and they likely already have to learn something every now and again (though then again every fix for windows after 8 seems to boil down to “reinstall it loser” so maybe not.)

              The culture of immediacy has been such a detriment on our society.

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    I get why Microsoft wants everyone to be in one OS for code maintenance issues. The problem is that Microsoft has hit a wall in getting Windows to be a revenue generator and is including privacy breaking features like Copilot without a way to disable or not use it.

    I think a lot of people wouldn’t be complaining about the upgrade if Windows 11 wasn’t dog shit.

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    Using Linux for 30 years already, for servers, notebooks, and desktops. For gaming I still have Windows 10 though. Testing gaming on Linux now, looks promising. MSFS with VR is still a challenge though.

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    Using Bazzite for the gaming machine and Ubuntu for my laptop. Last windows machine in the house goes away as soon as I get to rebuilding the wifes laptop. Recently discovered Tails for a no traceable footprint tor. Browser bootable os for privacy.

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        Is it so trivially untrue? Could they just as easily have implemented TPM 2.0 in Win10 and just have stopped Win10 from working on devices without TPM 2.0 compatibility? Would that have been better?

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          TPM’s entire point is basically to prevent you from using anything but windows on the computer. They want to make it so that you can’t change to e.g. linux or anything else, because they know they’re going to be bringing in unpopular changes that people want to swap from.

          In it’s most basic form, it locks you out of modifying your computer how you want it to be, in favor of how microsoft or your OEM wants it to be.

          They talk a lot about how it prevents attackers from changing deep, mystical boot level things so it sounds scary, but honestly I can’t even think of that last time that was a legitimate attack someone actually did, and frankly encryption at rest already solved that issue a long time ago.

          At the end of the day, it’s a way to force you to buy a new computer, raising profits, buy a new version of windows, raising profits, and locking you into the ecosystem with your very system and data itself held hostage- again, for profits. Since you’re a captive audience, they can also start doing things for profits- like mining all your data to sell.

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              So basically, TPM is a secure bit of hardware on the mobo, that allow it to do data encryption, software signing, integrity checks, etc. All that is fine, good even, and Linux fully supports TPM modules, because there’s a lot of good you can do with it, especially the fact that’s in a hardware encrypted key store. Those ‘secure enclaves’ are HUGE for security.

              The problem is how windows controls it. Basically, TPM 2.0 can store a bunch of hash values of various parts of your system- bios, bootloader, kernel, etc. It can use this to ensure nothing has been tampered with. it can also enable ‘secure boot’ which is basically to ensure only signed, confirmed software is loaded as the bootloader. Finally, disk encryption can be run through TPM 2.0.

              Again, none of these things are bad… if YOU control the TPM module. But on Windows, you don’t, windows or your OEM does. You don’t get to boot your system without their permission. You don’t get to unlock your hard drive without their permission. You don’t get to change OSs without their permission. And finally, you don’t even get to change hardware without their permission!

              You can see how it’s a problem when your OEM or windows itself controls that kind of thing regarding your PC. For right now, these problems mainly seem to occur in enterprise or OEM pcs, not prebuilts or custom-builts… but Windows gets greedier by the day, and frankly so do OEMs.

              The goal is to turn away from decades of computer innovation and lock down and control your computer worse than your phone is now. You can already see the effects- Windows has started calling installing your own software ‘sideloading,’ for example, and making scary noises about how installing anything from outside the windows store inherently dangerous.

              tl;dr: Companies hate the idea of you actually owning your pc, and TPM 2.0 is just another thing they’re using for stripping that control away from you, bit by bit, in the name of ‘security.’

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                Damn… Can Windows really stop my BIOS from booting on a self built PC with TPM? How would my BIOS even know to not boot before Windows has started?

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                  If windows takes over the TPM module? Yes, because they change the stuff the bios references to boot.

                  That said, if you self-built, you can probably keep it from taking over the TPM module (I think.)

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          There’s no reason to force tpm requirements other than to create tons and tons of ewaste and force people to upgrade their hardware to run their new even more bloated and invasive operating system.

          Don’t believe this JUST HAD TO BE!

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            For sure it didn’t just have to be, completely agree. But I find it hard to understand that that could be the only reason.

            Is there really no way to steelman the requirement?

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              I’m not well versed on the reasons, but I see that AI is mentioned frequently when TPM is brought up in Windows 11… probably because of that new rewind feature that’s pretty much surveillance baked into your pc, they probably need that to be ultra secure.

              It seems like maybe they have done this because it’s maybe necessary, but only for features that no one wanted anyways.

              There should be a choice and a warning if you don’t have TPM, along with disabling invasive “features” that could have it’s data stolen, otherwise they are signing off on what is probably thousands of tons of ewaste.

              I believe there are ways to get around this requirement, but then you are running in an unsupported use case and I wouldn’t be surprised if they brick your OS randomly one day with an unrelated (or maybe related) patch.

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        1. 'tism - I’ve been using Windows for so long that it feels right. Using another one feels wrong. I can’t really give you a concrete answer more than that. Occasionally windows does a thing that feels wrong and this like… feeling like my skin is crawling or tensed up or electric starts happening and I’ve got to figure out what is the wrong feeling thing to make it feel right. When they tried to move the icons into the center of my taskbar… that was a wrong thing and I literally couldn’t process using the PC until I fixed it. Had to use my phone to google how to fix it. Linux? That feeling. The whole time. Everytime I go to do a thing and it’s not the way I am used to or whatever there’s a rising panic. That happening on windows rarely I can deal with. That happening on Linux a lot at the start (which I am aware I’d eventually get over when I get used to things) is mortifying as a concept. I dont want to feel the wrong.

        2. Support - Windows has damn near universal support for everything. Linux has support with an asterisk. You can get it working but it’ll be either setting things up yourself in a certain way or getting dependencies or whatever happens for gaming. Windows I just do the thing. I get to swing my little gay legs and just keep looking at memes while being none the wiser.

        3. Bundled - I keep hearing that one of the benefits of Linux is that it’s like legos or whatever. You snap on the parts that you need/want and then use those. But I don’t know what I need want. I like trying some new things to an extent to figure out other new things. Think different ways. If I’m starting over entirely like with a new OS then that freaks the hell out of me but if there’s some comfort while stepping into a new body of water then I’m okay with that. Bundling all the shit lets me go “Huh. Neat.” and learn about it.

        4. I am stupid - Dumb. Brain go numb. I have terminal case of stupid bitch disease. I do not have the capacity to learn new things. I am not old dog. I am desiccated corpse of something that once resembled a dog

        5. I fucking hate penguins - I think they’re dumb. I hate their stupid little wings. I hate their lil faces. I am polite about it and look how cute they are but I fucking hate them and can’t describe why to you. It’s just like the same thing I have for Markiplier. Neither of them have done anything wrong but everytime I see either one of them I just get filled with loathing. I have no idea why either one of them trigger that in me.

        6. Too many distros - aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Everytime I pick one to try and mess with someone else tells me I’m wrong and to go with another and is it mint is it ubutntu is it kubuntu is it fedora what the fuck aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

        7. Linux is actively hostile to new users - At least the general distros are. I had to set up an ubuntu thing for someone a couple years ago and no part of anything that I was doing felt intuitive or in places that made sense to me. Maybe that’s just from using windows for so long but I had to google an irritating amount of shit to get it working. Speak nothing of having to track down every individual fucking driver and install that

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          Ah yeah, that’s fair. Well, if you ever get sick of Windows just know that:

          1. KDE Plasma feels a lot more like Windows 10 than Windows 11 does, in terms of GUI. Of course, that’s my opinion, but there’s a theme that is literally just Windows 7.

          2. The asterisk is getting smaller every day. Now that said, if you play online games with anticheat then yeah you should stick with Windows, but you’re not going to see many games you have to troubleshoot on Linux in the year 2025. Just download, check the box for Proton, and play.

          3. Most Linux distributions are not like Legos. They can be, but for gaming especially they’re pretty damn preconfigured nowadays. Distros like CachyOS and Bazzite specifically are set up with everything you need for gaming, and distros like Pop!_OS and Mint have little “shop” apps that let you browse all the stuff you can use.

          4. Lmao

          5. Lmao based, I hope you feel differently about gnus and dragons.

          6. So true, but it doesn’t really matter what distro you choose, as long as you make sure it’s one that meets your needs. So if you game, go with a gaming distro.

          7. Yeahhh, idk anything about that. I’ve been using nothing but Linux to game for like 2 years now, and I’ve never had to configure drivers. It can be really irritating when something breaks though, I feel that.

          Now, the Linux community is actively hostile to new users, which is the reason for my little response essay here. Every time someone is frustrated with Linux, people are quick to jump on them and cast blame, but it really can be convoluted. Which is why it’s crazy to me that nobody ever talks about how rapidly intuitive it’s become since 2023. Like, Linux was unusable for me in 2022, but now I can never go back.

          Anyway, I hope this didn’t come across as argumentative or preachy, that was not at all my intention. Thank you for sharing your reasoning!

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            1. Very good to know.

            2. Also very good to know. I do play a couple games that are anti-cheat dependent but not a ton. PvP stopped being my jam a while ago. Coop is where its at.

            3. Also good to know.

            4. Durr

            5. Well I play DnD but gnus… unless that’s a typo…

            6. I don’t even know what I do. that’s kind of why I like Windows. Catch all

            7. To be fair when I set that up was sometime in 2021 or 2022. So that would track

            Nah. Not argumentative or preachy at all. If anything, you were the dead opposite. This got me more interested in linux than anything else ever has. You’re not wrong on the community either. Some Linux users can be kinda preachy sometimes which can be sort of offputting. It’s also why I avoided gaming on a PC for a very long time. The whole PC master-race thing put me off so bad that I didn’t even want to be associated with gaming on a PC. Wasn’t until that whole trend died off that I felt more comfortable gaming on a PC. I am a very simple tech user. I just wanna plug and play. Another reason why I typically like consoles. Sorry I’m rambling. But thank you!

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    I guess if Linux is universally adopted then they’ll eventually become like Microsoft or Apple with respect to ownership and capitalization. Right now though, they are the Magnificent Seven.

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      that can’t happen in the current linux landscape

      linux is not owned by any corp and there are so many maintainer groups to choose from there would be not foothold for corporations to take over

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          I wouldn’t think it’d ever be possible. Sure maybe there is a SLIGHT chance someone evil takes over linux (highly doubt, but this is an example), but linux is deeply rooted in open source, so someone will create a fork that outlives any evilness.

          This already happens to a lot of popular open source projects. People don’t like who maintains it? They fork and continue building on their own terms.

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    Nah, windows runs all my games.

    This said, I also run Linux exclusively for other things.

    I guess everyone hates me for daring to run Windows though. I fucking hate Lemmy sometimes. You guys are such douchebags.

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      Honestly, these days linux runs 90%+ of windows games, often better than windows. The 10% that’s left have kernel level ‘anticheat’ that you probably don’t want anyway.

      I actually run a bit of everything. Mac at work, freebsd for the servers, linux for my personal/gaming pc, windows 10 for the VR/guest pc (though I really should check how VR performance is in linux these days- I haven’t checked in like 8+ years, last time I tried there was a microstutter issue that made me nauseous af, and W10 is obv going away), graphene on the phone, another phone with KaiOS to fiddle with, etc etc.

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      What game does it run that Linux doesn’t? There are some but besides league I’ve been able to play everyone on them.

      Why are you assuming insults and responding to a straw man? Weird…

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        Destiny is another. Actually I hear it runs fine Bungie just bans your account if you try to play on linux, “because fuck you that’s why.”

        Also a bunch of online games with kernel level anticheat (which IMO good I don’t want kernel level anticheat on linux at all lmao.)

        Linux has been known to run single player games better than windows though, so I guess it just depends on your style. Me? I have OpenMW on linux and a GBC on my shelf, that’s all I need.

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      Its okay to still use windows where it works best for you :) it’s definitely frustrating sometimes when people get so hung up on what they feel like is the solution that they’re assholes to others. Linux has been amazing for the 10 or so years I’ve been using it but not everyone wants or needs to switch right now and that’s okay.

      Sorry your experience here has sucked sometimes. Wanting to see linux do well and knowing that it’s worked well for your own needs isn’t a good justification for being a dick.

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      Yeah, Lemmy is worse than Reddit sometimes.

      My work software literally only runs on Windows. Better quit my job! Or “Dual boot!” for literally no reason. Windows is made out to be so much worse than it is, like it’s giving my family cancer.

      Windows also gave me another year of updates for clicking a button, so now I can drag my feet on updating for another 12 months.

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      This dude is right. If you primarily use your computer for gaming, Linux is still not good enough. No amount of “hurr durr the anticheat should be reason enough not to play” is going to change that.

      People will play what they want of what their friends are playing, and if to doesn’t work on Linux, regardless of whose fault that is, it makes Linux still not good enough for most gamers.

      He’s also right that lemmy is full of douchebags.