Yeah, I’m not really mad at that. I don’t think it changes my sentiment towards generative ai, but I don’t mind people finding ways to create their own fun and roleplaying or whatever

Thanks :)

I wish we could see what outlet it was for context

Generative ai and machine learning are pretty broadly considered different if adjacent technologies if I’m not mistaken

https://www.forbes.com/sites/bernardmarr/2024/06/25/the-vital-difference-between-machine-learning-and-generative-ai/ probably not the best source, I just grabbed what came up

They don’t really do the same thing, and have different types of outputs compared to one another, even if both use a neural network of weights or whatever

As a person who has spent a huge amount of my life making art I think the idea that it will get more people into art is naive, and I think being devoid of understanding artistic principles it makes poor reference compared to anything else, which is part of why artists communities loathe generative AI. I follow tons of artists online and they all periodically have to stop and vent their frustration.

A youtuber artist did a whole video explaining how finding reference on the internet is now borderline impossible due to ai content, and after problem solving explained you can avoid that problem by only looking at images older than when gen ai became widespread. It reached a pretty big audience and was extremely well recieved by artists, broadly, hate gen ai and want nothing to do with it 😅

Also just wanna clarify- I’m not downvoting you. I try to downvote when a comment is bad behaviour or doesn’t add anything, not just when I don’t agree with someone

I think the appeal of seeing stuff that people make is that it reflects the humans who made it.

I’m generally not especially interested in what an algorithm produces, at least not in the same way or for the same reason as I am things made by people.

I don’t know what gen ai could produce that I would sincerely find good, it lacks the humanity that gives that product any worth.

Is that generative ai or machine learning? I really don’t have the same issue with machine learning

Its not just llm’s, I find calling ai generated images “art” frankly offensive and demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of what art is and why it’s important to us as humans. But my issue is really just generative ai

I don’t really think people have an issue with machine learning, it’s useful for all kinds of stuff, and doesn’t really come with the same ethical problems as best I’m aware, so I have no reason to complain about it.

That is genuinely really interesting, I didn’t expect it to be db0. Thanks!

Huh, I wouldn’t have guessed db0, interesting. I’d kinda considered exploring db0 as a future instance but maybe its not such a good fit for me. Thanks for the answer!

That doesn’t really help me or add anything to the conversation. I already have views on ai, I was really just asking about the dynamics and cultures of different instances because I find learning about those cultural differences interesting.

I’m personally not a fan. Its a commercial product built on the theft of intellectual labor by creatives and the primary selling point of generative ai is that it can replace the people who do that creative labor. I’ve tried using it at various points and it straight up made stuff up and ended up not helping me find what I was looking for at all. I tried to use it to generate practice text I could translate into Japanese for language learning and it constantly used words other than the ones provided- words I didn’t know in japanese.

It has hypothetically useful usecases, that I pretty much never see anyone actually implement, and it feels very clear that the only reason anyone is investing in it is because it can reduce the need to pay actual humans, generating more money for people who already have tons, while wasting huge amount of electricity and resources.

Telling me, apropos of nothing, that having a stance other than neutral is “stupid” doesn’t add anything, give me anything to consider, substantiate any stance, provide any details, etc. I don’t really need to know that you think I’m stupid for not liking ai.

Thats fuckin cute :)

Thank you, I struggled to look it up and find an answer that made any sense 😅

Which instance is pro ai?

Sick mini and a sick background, looking good!

Thats sick!

That looks rad, great work!

Awww :(

Yeah, I guess social media has, in effort to build maximum engagement, really shaped a lot of people’s way of engaging with others in deeply toxic ways that will be very hard to untangle and change, now that the social forces that teach us how to act towards one another have been hijacked for monetary gain, and people have spent so much time exposed to that :(

Thank you for sharing your thoughts, it gave me some new things to think about, and maybe it will help me set aside my frustration and remember my empathy when dealing with those people, at least more often. Because if I want to enact change I also need to build a critical mass of people who share my perspective.

Sorry for the ludicrous run-on sentence that is the first paragraph lol, I’m to tired to edit more at the moment 😅

Looks tasty, I wish I was eating it :)

I can appreciate how twisted and emotionally charged the labels have become. As a queer(-ish, it’s complicated) person in the US, it is not uncommon for right wing spaces on reddit to offhandedly describe me and all the people I care about as groomers. Thats not a good faith discussion of whether the way that I want to see problems solved is productive, it’s just dehumanizing people because they’re minorities.

I don’t want to be around that. I think it is extremely important to have conversations with people you don’t agree with, and I still have very little emotional capacity to engage with people that far away from me in terms of what’s considered an acceptable way to engage with other humans.

I don’t wish them death and dismemberment or for them to face violent retribution (and before people take issue with that, that would radicalize people and harm every single cause I care about, making every problem I’m facing worse. Even just purely pragmatically that’s a horrible way to solve our problems like 99% of the time), but I don’t wish to share space with them, I don’t have that in me.

The left does absolutely have an issue with calling anyone we dont like a Nazi, which is a painful problem to confront due to the fact that our government is descending into outright fascism, and it is now infinitely harder to have a conversation about the fact that this is what fascism looks like now that the word has been so diluted as to be almost meaningless. It essentially just conveys “I really really really don’t like that person” at this point, which is a big difference from “this person is framing minorities as responsible for all that ails society to gain power while stripping us of our freedoms and amassing personal power and currying favor with billionaires by selling them our institutions at all or our expense”

I’m curious, how did both the left and right get fucked in the recent election? I’m pretty much entirely unfamiliar with Australian politics save for a couple friendly jordies videos

Ya love to hear it :)