• rumschlumpel@feddit.org
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    3 days ago

    Source on that? There have to be quite a few billionaires in NYC, how much are they spending on that anti-Zohran campaign?

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      how much are they spending on that anti-Zohran campaign?

      Depends on if you accept that the Cuomo campaign and the “anti-Zohran campaign” describe the same thing…

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        And how much did they spend on that? It’s kind of difficult to find current numbers through a quick web search, especially if you aren’t super familiar with US election systems.

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          especially

          I’d say anyone even slightly familiar with US politics would know billionaires have lots of ways to obfuscate campaign donations…

          Like, it’s not exactly a secret, and US politics are kind of unavoidable.

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            Sure, but this is a rather specific claim that seems a little hard to believe. You’re telling me they’re spending billions on a mayor campaign (assuming Mamdani’s plans are similar to what Massachusetts did)?

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                If they aren’t spending billions, the claim that billionaires are spending more money on the anti-Mamdani/pro-Cuomo campaigns than Mamdani’s policies would cost them is flat-out wrong.

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                  So…

                  You think that Mamdani’s policies will cost multiple people over a billion dollars?

                  Facts:

                  1. They are billionaires.

                  2. Mamdani will raise their taxes

                  Assumptions:

                  A. They are likely spending more on Cuomo’s campaign then they would pay in taxes

                  B. This is because if Mamdani’s policies are successful they’d see wider adoption.

                  Besides the fact that you somehow think the taxes will cost any single person a billion dollars, the big flaw is you think the office of the NYC mayor is the full war, and not just a battle.

                  Billionaires will spend more than Mamdani will cost them, because they see it as a single battle in a very long class war. Win or lose the battle, they will keep fighting the war

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                    You think that Mamdani’s policies will cost multiple people over a billion dollars?

                    Do you think that I think that multiple people are spending over a billion dollars each? Obviously not. But collectively, probably?

                    Billionaires will spend more than Mamdani will cost them

                    I haven’t seen so much as a hint of evidence for this.

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                But how much ARE they spending then? And why? I’m not from the US either and I’m baffled at the media attention this mayoral election is getting.

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                  https://www.thecity.nyc/2025/06/09/cuomo-super-pac-fix-the-city-donations/

                  Under New York City laws that aim to curb the potential for or appearance of pay-to-play corruption, nobody on the city’s official list of companies and individuals doing, or even seeking, business with the city can give more than $400 to a citywide candidate in any election cycle.

                  But there’s another option: so-called independent expenditure committees, New York’s version of super PACS, that allow deep-pocketed players to spend unlimited amounts of money backing one candidate. And this election cycle, the overwhelming beneficiary of such spending has been former Gov. Andrew Cuomo — and those seeking to influence the vote in his favor.

                  mayoral candidate Andrew Cuomo has received $10.8 million in total contributions to his Super PAC “Fix The City”.

                  A few “fun” snippets here:

                  donor Scott Rechler, chairman and CEO of RXR Realty, a major player in New York City’s ultra-competitive real estate market.

                  On March 13, Rechler wrote a $2,100 check to Cuomo’s campaign. The campaign promptly refunded him $1,700, bringing his donation in line with the $400 limit on “doing business” donors. Rechler had landed on the list two months earlier regarding the Hall Street project.

                  But Rechler wasn’t finished. The very next day he wrote a much more impressive check of $250,000 to Fix the City, an independent expenditure committee that is aggressively supporting Cuomo’s bid for City Hall.

                  Arker also owns a company called Progressive Management of New York and a limited liability corporation called Chateau GC LLC. On April 23, the day after Arker wrote his $400 check to the Cuomo campaign, Progressive and Chateau each wrote $25,000 checks to Fix The City.

                  The tell

                  the Cuomo campaign and Fix The City have already been accused of improper coordination on the spending side.

                  The city Campaign Finance Board made such an accusation last month when it withheld nearly $1.3 million in public matching funds from Cuomo’s campaign, finding that a Fix the City ad plugging Cuomo’s candidacy was nearly identical to language on the campaign’s official website.

                  Some more:

                  In addition to Fix The City, a landlord group, the New York Apartment Association, last week announced the formation of an independent expenditure committee called Housing For All, promising to spend $2.5 million to support the former governor’s mayoral bid.

                  24 entities who are currently on the “doing business” list wrote checks to Fix The City ranging from $5,000 to $1 million

                  They include corporations such as DoorDash ($1 million), Lyft ($25,000), Charter Communications ($125,000) and major real estate developers The Durst Organization ($100,000) and Two Trees Management ($250,000) — entities that are strictly prohibited from giving any amount to campaigns.

                  To date (NOTE BY ME: that date was June, 4 months ago) Fix The City has spent $5.6 million in support of Cuomo’s City Hall bid and has more recently launched negative ads against his main rival Zohran Mamdani. That includes $1.29 million to air a video ad that included text the CFB found mirrored text that existed on an obscure page within the Cuomo campaign’s website.

                  In short, its really hard to know how much is being spent, because they can hide it in all kinds of ridiculous ways.

                  Tens of millions of dollars have been spent in easily tracked money. There’s more being spent that isnt as easily tracked.