It is one position that seems to cross ideological lines. It’s like literally everyone other than people who are very invested in the stock market (and even then) really want to see this thing crash and crash hard.
As someone who lived through and lost a job during the GFC, I think a bit of this is not realizing how bad an economic crash is even if you don’t think it will affect you much. It will. Some people think the residential real estate market will crash too and they can finally buy a house. But that’s hard to do when either you’ve lost your job or your job feels so precarious that you really don’t feel safe emptying your savings and taking out a mortgage. Or if you have a “safe” job, you think you can weather the storm. But in a depression, there are very few “safe” jobs.
But with that caveat aside, I think things are different now because so many people are struggling and barely getting by with their current employment situation. Life already feels so precarious, might as well throw a spanner into the works and see what happens. And that part feels very different than in the run up to the GFC. It affects everyone, regardless of political ideology.
Of course now I’m convinced that because it’s something everyone is expecting and wants to see happen, it will never actually happen. US will just limp along with high inflation, no job growth, and everyone getting slowly squeezed for years.


As an Australian I wonder how it will go for us. We managed to come through the GFC relatively unscathed (through high social spending), likewise COVID (ditto). China is already a huge trading partner. I do wonder what happens when American hegemony falls. Do we go down with the great satan? (Very much deserved but I personally would rather not live through it tbqh). Do we realign closer to China? Where does that end? We’re fundamentally a liberal democracy, so there is absolutely a clash there - our leadership won’t step aside for socialism and if China is sincere about building socialism (as I believe they likely are) they need that to happen eventually as of course communism is a global system, not a national one. How would that contradiction play out? Will China just let us fall alongside the USA and be there to help pick up the pieces and build socialism with Australian characteristics?
And what would that sound like?
Bogan Mao Zedong <= is this anything
I hope you guys end up calling struggle sessions struggos
Aw yeh 's almost struggo mate
Yeah I can see it
I don’t see that happening anytime soon, Westerners have completely believed everything about China and are too racist for this.
its insane, I have someone I thought was a friend who once literally refused to watch a movie with the rest of the friend group because it was Chinese. Like that’s just racism.
I could see a path where we align more closely with them economically and a social alignment follows along later but yeah, definitely a long shot and I’m probably being overly kind to my fellow
What do you think the yuan-dollarydoo exchange rate will look like?
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