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    I was expecting someone to explain why we need to cut dog’s balls off but no one has given an answer. So here it is: a vasectomy helps prevent unwanted babies while neutering prevents unwanted hormones/babies.

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      Also less risk for cancer and prostate issues. Latter is very typical in areas with lots of dogs, since there can be always at least one female in heat and that going on constantly can really stress male dogs out. Typical sign is peeing blood

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    FYI: vasectomies don’t “go great” as a “simple procedure”… Quite unpleasant actually. Not life threatening…but still a really shit experience.

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      Mild inconvenience at worst. Don’t spread misinformation about this awesome procedure.

      Sounds like you just had a shit doc doing yours.

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        I’m one of the unlucky ones who had years of pain afterward. I think the complication rate is underreported, by a lot. I went back and asked for help with the pain and they basically told me I was imagining it.

        Also, it’s not really helpful to dismiss any accounts that don’t fit your narrative as “just a shit doc.” Even if that’s true, most laypeople can’t distinguish a shit doctor from a good one. FWIW, the doc that did mine had several interns watching and learning during my procedure, so apparently he was the best they had.

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          My doctor explained all this before the procedure that there was a risk of lasting pain, sometimes it doesn’t work, etc so it absolutely does seem like you had a shit doc.

          Furthermore, the above poster said “vasectomies don’t go great as a simple procedure” which isn’t true in a majority of cases. Mine was also 15 minutes in the office and about a week and a half of tenderness. This was followed by a prescription for busting a nut as many times as I could to flush the pipes before the semen count test. Every medical procedure has some risk. The above poster is claiming something that isn’t true.

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            I didn’t say they didn’t explain the risk. I said I think the medical community is underreporting it. I’m glad you all had no problems. Obviously that’s not the universal experience, and being dismissive of the unlucky ones is fucked up.

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              What do you mean when you say “the medical community is underreporting it?” I acknowledged that my experience is not the universal experience, but also that my doctor was aware of this possibility and informed me of it before the procedure. The fact that yours didn’t along with disregarding your known symptom after the fact shows that they’re not very good at their job, but says nothing about the procedure itself nor what the other person is claiming to be universally true.

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                As per my last comment, my doctor did warn me about the risk. I don’t know why you keep reading the opposite.

                Everyone else in this thread is going by their own anecdotal experience. Mine is that I complained about long term pain and they didn’t help me or record it. I.e., my complication went unreported. Why is my anecdotal experience less valid than yours?

                Edit: for the sake of wrapping this up, even if “I got a shit doc” therefore what? It was my fault for not picking a better one? If you have a cogent point to make, get to it

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                  I made my point quite clearly in my last comment.

                  You’re saying your doctor warned you about this risk, but then didn’t believe it was real when you were one of the unlucky ones to be affected by it? Again your gripe seems to be with the doctor not the procedure.

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          Thank you for sharing your experience. It can be so frustrating to hear a doctor tell you that over a year of pain is just your imagination.

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          Just cause he was teaching the interns doesn’t make him the best they have to just clear that up. That’s a massively off base assumption.

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                Someone attacks the least consequential part of my comment for apparently no reason other than to try to bait me, and I’m the asshole who needs to calm down. Okay

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        It’s different for everyone. The pain experienced varies wildly and for different durations. Some people get aspirin after and others get an opiate. Some people get laughing gas before/during and others a valium or xanax. There’s also a semi rare condition where you experience pain long after the procedure.

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          You guys got drugs before yours? My surgeon didn’t even believe that I wasn’t numb yet (I have a super high tolerance to anesthesia).

          Vasectomy without anesthesia: -1/10

          But, I basically did a speed run on the pain, because I didn’t even need ibuprofen for the recovery.

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            My dentist didn’t believe me when I got my wisdom teeth out when I said the anesthesia didn’t take. All 4 corners need their own numbing. I convinced him to give me another shot on the first one, but on the other 3 he straight up told me “No. You can’t feel it so I won’t do anything.” So I could feel a lot.

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            That’s a medical complaint to your local licensing board.

            Yeah, so during my procedure, my doctor either didn’t numb me up enough or whatever, but I said “I felt that.” right at the start and he said “Do you mean you felt some pressure?” To which I responded: “uh… no. You just put a clamp on my left testicle.”
            At which point he said “Oh! Well, let’s get you numbed up a bit more then!” And they did.
            That didn’t really stop my body from going into full freakout mode. My BP went up, temperature spiked, and I laid there trying to meditate while the nurses dealt with the physical symptoms.

            It was so weird. I had a full physical reaction, but my emotional state was pretty solid, because I trusted their reaction and could tell they cared about my comfort.

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              Well, he’s no longer in the country (he got married and moved), but I wouldn’t file a complaint because I gave him the go ahead to proceed. After he finished my first testicle he offered to stop and numb me up more, but I told him to just finish up.

              Luckily my pain tolerance is stupid high so it wasn’t a huge deal, but his PA and nurse were visibly disturbed by it, lol.

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        I think it’s also a matter of when it was done. I had the old kind with needles and scalpels and it was pretty rough. The newer procedures have a few benefits:

        • No-scalpel vasectomy: a small puncture hole is made instead of a cut. The vas deferens is located, pulled through the hole, cut, and sealed. This method usually does not require stitches because the puncture is so small.
        • no-needle” vasectomy: uses a special device called a Madajet, which delivers a puff of local anesthetic through the skin using compressed air, numbing the area before the procedure begins

        I would think either or both of these options would eliminate most if not all of the major discomfort/pain issues.

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        You’re the one spreading misinformation. While yours might have gone smoothly, it’s a medical procedure with real risks of complications, some of which are permanent, and not everyone has a good experience regardless the skills of their surgeon.

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          Nah, they stated,

          FYI: vasectomies don’t “go great” as a “simple procedure”

          with no further qualifications. That’s misinformation. Many people have smooth and complication-free vasectomies; it’s been a routine procedure for decades. Of course there are those who have unpleasant and complicated results, but that’s not what they said. They just made the blanket statement that the procedures “don’t go great”. Perhaps they meant the procedures “can go poorly”, but that isn’t what they said.

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          Explain how your viewpoint is any different than the smooth brains who tell others not to get vaccinated because it’ll give you autism or kill you.

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            Because mine is actually based on facts?

            Any surgery has the potential for complications, and vasectomies have a non-negligible risk of life long testicular pain.

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              Nobody said the procedure is risk free. It’s misinformation to claim that vasectomies never go well and arent simple procedures. For a vast majority of people, that’s exactly what they are. Any medical procedure including vaccinations comes with a certain amount of risk. You’re taking a miniscule risk and blowing it up into something that it isn’t.

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                They said they don’t go great, as in there’s always going to be shitty things about it. Not that they never go well.

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                  FYI: vasectomies don’t “go great” as a “simple procedure”…

                  Seems like a pretty absolute statement with no room for alternatives to me.

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        News flash: lots of doctors out there are shit and it’s not like you exactly know how bad they’re gonna be yanking and slicing your junk until they’re in the act. Source: had a shit doc do my vasectomy.

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        I don’t want to discount others’ stories, I’m sure at least many of them are true. Every body is different and every doctor is different. It still seems to be an all-around safer approach to birth control with less frequent side effects than the methods there are for women, at least to my understanding.

        My partner is on enough meds for other things that figuring out a hormone balancing routine on top of that seemed burdensome. When I got my gallbladder removed, I told them to just add on the vasectomy while I was out already.

        I was a bit concerned when I woke up, as I thought it was supposed to be relatively painless and my crotch was killing me worse than the pain from the gallbladder stuff. Once I could stand up though, I figured out the supporter they put on my had been bunched up and was cutting off circulation or pinching a nerve or something like that, so once I fixed that, it was just mild discomfort.

        It’s nice not having to worry about the effectiveness of other birth control methods now. I found the whole concept very liberating. I’d whole-heartedly recommend it, but like any other operation, there is going to be a non-zero chance of risk. For most people, it’s a mundane thing you will rapidly forget you even did it, but like anything else, the people who take the time to post about it are going to be the ones with negative experiences, so diy research can end up being a bit disproportionate.

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      The procedure was great, I was super serene with the laughing gas. The boys were really sensitive for a couple of weeks, any tap felt like a kick, but afterwards it’s business as usual.

      I’m glad it’s not super easy to get nitrous anymore because I would get addicted pretty quickly lol

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      It was simple for me. 40 minutes after I was called out of the waiting room I already left the clinic and 0 pain and 0 complications. The two tests afterwards found no sperm, so it was a success. I would always recommend it, because it was so east and painless.

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      Mine was pretty alright. A little anxiety but then they turned on the gas and I was instantly super super high. The dentist has been holding out on us. Nitrous can get you significantly higher than they lead us to believe.

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        Fucking hell…they didn’t give me gas! Just local anaesthetic injection (that wasn’t not completely effective). Fucking NHS!! My procedure was pretty horrendous really.

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          NHS? Does that mean it was free of charge? I had local anaesthetics as well but it was very thoroughly checked if it was enough already. It wasn’t so I got extra injections. Had to pay 600 € everything included though. Would recommend.

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          They also used local which I have somewhat of a natural resistance to. Mid procedure I felt something and made them aware and they hit me with another dose. He did comment that it was “a lot” of local.

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          Let’s say, for the sake of argument, that you are a transgender woman and you want to get an orchidectomy – that’s an operation to remove your testicles. In the USA they say “orchiectomy”, but here [in the UK] we say “orchidectomy”, because the whole point is that you keep the “D”.

          One of my favourite jokes from Philosophy Tube 😃

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      The recovery is painful but it’s much simpler than, say, a hysterectomy, which is more invasive and has a longer recovery.