Getting dreams of the recently deceased and getting dreams and vision of saints are generally considered separate things in Catholic mysticism. The recently deceased in particular are thought to be primed for diabolical influence, where-as the confirmed canonization of a saint is what demonstrates that such visions are divinely inspired, and even then you are meant to share these things first in private with your confessor who will consult with others to determine it’s divinity and authencity, then publicly, if at all.
Getting dreams of the dead isn’t unique to Protestantism, particularly in Counter-Reformation Catholicism, but how she is approaching it as a faith experience is very Protestant.
You are supposed to do a lot of things, but catholics don’t follow those rules as a rule (Heh). (Protestants are also only supposed to derive their understanding of christ from scripture, but American protestantism is like 80% American Civic Religion by weight, and European Lutheranism isn’t any better)
Folk saints are common even when declared explicitly not real saints by the catholic church (Santa Muerte veneration is explicitly blasphemous as per the Catholic church, there are still thousands of shrines in her name), folk catholicism is so pervasive it’s been the subject of study for generations, and basically no saint followed the road you’re “Supposed” to take as a believer to get where they did.
Given that the official saint you did mention did generally follow doctrine outside of being even more strict and pious than surrounded Catholics, there are plenty of saints who followed the road of ecstatic worship, it’s a well trod path in the Church supported by the earliest traditions.
I’m not arguing that other Catholics aren’t also bad at Catholicism, even those brought up in the faith, I’m just saying that Candace Owens is mostly just Catholic for the idea of tradition, less so than any actual adherence to it (outside of the tradition of a lack of adherence to tradition lol).
That said, the idea of there being a Saint Candace Owens based on her having dreams of Charlie Kirk is very funny to me.
Getting dreams of the recently deceased and getting dreams and vision of saints are generally considered separate things in Catholic mysticism. The recently deceased in particular are thought to be primed for diabolical influence, where-as the confirmed canonization of a saint is what demonstrates that such visions are divinely inspired, and even then you are meant to share these things first in private with your confessor who will consult with others to determine it’s divinity and authencity, then publicly, if at all.
Getting dreams of the dead isn’t unique to Protestantism, particularly in Counter-Reformation Catholicism, but how she is approaching it as a faith experience is very Protestant.
You are supposed to do a lot of things, but catholics don’t follow those rules as a rule (Heh). (Protestants are also only supposed to derive their understanding of christ from scripture, but American protestantism is like 80% American Civic Religion by weight, and European Lutheranism isn’t any better) Folk saints are common even when declared explicitly not real saints by the catholic church (Santa Muerte veneration is explicitly blasphemous as per the Catholic church, there are still thousands of shrines in her name), folk catholicism is so pervasive it’s been the subject of study for generations, and basically no saint followed the road you’re “Supposed” to take as a believer to get where they did.
Given that the official saint you did mention did generally follow doctrine outside of being even more strict and pious than surrounded Catholics, there are plenty of saints who followed the road of ecstatic worship, it’s a well trod path in the Church supported by the earliest traditions.
I’m not arguing that other Catholics aren’t also bad at Catholicism, even those brought up in the faith, I’m just saying that Candace Owens is mostly just Catholic for the idea of tradition, less so than any actual adherence to it (outside of the tradition of a lack of adherence to tradition lol).
That said, the idea of there being a Saint Candace Owens based on her having dreams of Charlie Kirk is very funny to me.