The tacit understanding here being that the funding and feelings of the police is more valuable than the lives of senior citizens.

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    He discredited it with the Soviets. We don’t have any Soviets. They also allied with the mensheviks/social Democrats during the first revolution. We haven’t even had a minor rebellion yet, you ally with whoever you need to and just don’t allow them to maintain a grip on power after a revolution, something that was accomplished by bringing the Soviets on side.

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        American leftists are so reactionary that they somehow think it’s easier to force an old established institution dedicated to absorbing revolutionary energy into becoming revolutionary, than actually creating the revolutionary party.

        It also reveals how little regard they have for the people that suffered & die or will suffer & die for their little stunt with blue maga.

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          wait why do you think he’s out to change the institution of the democratic party and not simply trying to do some good things as the mayor? one of those things is dumb as hell, the other is perfectly reasonable and there are structural reasons to seek the dem nomination rather than trying to do it as an independent.

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            Agreed. People kinda forgot that Kautsky, despite his disastrous influence on western socialism, himself still wanted actually communism in the end and not idk hiring freeze on hiring pigs or just defensive weapons to the genocidal state. Modern day DSA would have never demanded an 8-hour workday or, they would have advocated for being “good” not “perfect” and asked for a 11.5-hour workday which only applies for those employed for 10+ years.

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              the average person in NYC probably does not know who Kautsky is but does know what a free bus and daycare is

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                  I was snarky about it but what I really mean is that all this fantasizing about having the Mensheviks around and how puny pissbaby DSA would have been in the 1800s does nothing for the people of New York like having a free bus and daycare would, and the free bus and daycare guy is the frontrunner, so I don’t understand the emphatic opposition to the free bus and daycare guy. Like, drop your kids at the free daycare and take the free bus to protest his ass when he steps out of line. At the absolute bare minimum, people in New York are more aware that they have the right to demand a free bus and daycare from their government. That’s a good thing.

                  I’m sure you’ve heard this line of thinking a million times but still

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                    The issue I was speaking to is that he will drop even the meagre crumbs he is promising for the sake of a nebulous future win, of making socialism more “acceptable” as streamers like hassan postulate. And it only promotes further defeatism, apathy and lessening of class struggle. Instead of opening the populace for further and grander demands, he makes their world smaller, makes them think only modesty and surrender are achievable.

                    Its not about being against “free daycare” and the contrapointian line of thinking of leftists as “only wanting to critique power and not wield it” - this criticism is something the DSA refuses to engage in, and why they do not grow but stagnate into complicity.