Is this not the reason the second amendment exists? Regards An Australian Edit: I’m not advocating for violence. More so “a well regulated militia” which could be established by protesters or Democratic Governors for genuine self defence.

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    At a certain point we have to fight back.

    The argument of “we can’t respond to their violence with violence or they will become more violent” doesn’t hold water when they are getting increasingly violent anyway.

    It’s a coward’s fallacy

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      We may reach that point.

      We should try a general strike first. We don’t even need to combine it with protests. We just have everyone stay home and refuse to work. You can fight the government by playing old video games or watching TV.

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      I do understand your point but the military was told to attack and commit war crimes on American civilians so I just think that a general strike would be the most effective strategy in the situation we currently face. That’s just my opinion on the approach that would be the most efficient at this time.

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        It’s the most powerful tool in our arsenal. And it’s just sitting right at our feet. But we just won’t pick it up. I don’t get it.

        General strike now.

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        https://generalstrikeus.com/

        Once 11mil more strike cards are filled out it begins.

        Otherwise we are waiting until 2028 when the Auto Workers Union starts their planned general strike

        I will keep trying but I have very little faith in my fellow countrymen

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            Italy has massive nation wide unions (syndicates) and these strikes had more participation than any other in recent years. They exist today because of huge support for communists in the WW2 aftermath. I don’t think the US has anything of the sorts

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            I was once on a train in Italy and the train had a wildcat strike. It was just that train and only in that one location. Everyone on the train was resigned, because it’s part of the culture.

            Italy has had a long history of radical communist and anarchists, actually having political status and pushing back continuously. Here we are, trying to make it part of our own local cultures. There’s a lot of work to do.

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            They didn’t grow up isolated in a country 50x the size of Italy with a completely different system of values and it isn’t legal for their newspapers and government to use propaganda against them.

            Tbh i don’t even think half the country knows what a strike is, let alone has class consciousness

            If you feel like participating you can go fill out a strike card.

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              The working people of italia are all joined by a single piece of spaghetti

              it isnt legal for their newspapers and govt to use propaganda against them and a different system of values

              I’m sorry, what?

              Mussolini’s grandchild literally represents Italy in the European Parliament, you’re pretending america is some special fascist wonderland, when it’s just a culture built on dispossession, which plenty of Italians have migrated to, contributed to, and benefitted from

              I’ll give you one thing, Italy has a much higher union density than the usa (30% compared to 10%), i know for a fact it’s near impossible to get younger folk in a settler nation to join a union

              anyway whatever, watching a bunch of yanks suddenly start up with has anyone thought about a general strike? will never not give me a laugh

              join your union, read Lenin, start exercising

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      It is very cavalier to say that unless you are willing to be one of the first sacrifices.