Liberals make up more of the consumer class than conservatives. That highly marketable strata of people that have disposable income tend to be affluent, college educated liberals. Its why they keep winning the culture war and it drives conservatives insane.
Nice. None of those “go woke go broke” boycotts ever actually materialize into meaningful business pressure.
Unless you’re fucking Cracker Barrel.
Unless you’re fucking Cracker Barrel.
Which was manufactured outrage, spawned by a few Shitter posts which were then amplified by a huge bot network.
Cracker Barrel is so far in the red that the logo redesign was a hail mary move. They couldn’t afford to lose the tiny number of people who still frequent their trash diners.
And they sold the list of people who cancelled to the US government!
Wooooah, there, buckaroo. Gonna need a citation for that.
it’s a joke
Don’t give them ideas…
Probably…
The fact that you need a /s makes me very sad.
I do a lot of privacy and cyber advocacy and research. Selling lists is what already happens, so this is more real-sounding than I expect Damage@feddit.it knew when saying it.
So far.
tbh, I expect a lot of subscribers to resub sooner than later. Sadly
I think this is how boycotts are supposed to be. Protest and return if it’s successful.
If companies know they won’t ever recover from the mistake, why walk it back?
It may seem like a small percentage loss when talking dollar for dollar subscription loss vs Disneys massive revenue, but the scarier thing for their board of directors is damage to their brand.
The thought that a situation like this could cause any long a lasting or irreparable harm to the iconic mouse ears in any way would make keep them awake at night.
Streaming services are very sensitive to the ups and downs of anything that’s a standard deviation of from normal. They’re too new to have 10+ years of data to fall back on, so the same overreactions that canceled Kimmel also uncanceled him because of panicky reactions to repercussions.
Oh no! Anyway…
How do you use firewire on modem operating systems? I need to know.
I have to confess that I don’t actually use FireWire, nor have I ever used it to transfer anything. I just thought the port looked cool…
If it’s Linux, sounds like it should just work out of box, at least for a while longer.
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/linux-to-support-firewire-until-2029
Linux to Support Firewire Until 2029
The ancient connectivity standard still has years of life ahead of it.
Firewire is getting a new lease on life and will have extended support up to 2029 on Linux operating systems. Phoronix reports that a Linux maintainer Takashi Sakamoto has volunteered to oversee the Firewire subsystem for Linux during this time, and will work on Firewire’s core functions and sound drivers for the remaining few that still use the connectivity standard.
Further, Takashi Sakamoto says that his work will help users transition from Firewire to more modern technology standards (like perhaps USB 2.0). Apparently, Firewire still has a dedicated fanbase that is big enough to warrant six more years of support. But we suspect this will be the final stretch for Firewire support, surrounding Linux operating systems. Once 2029 comes around, there’s a good chance Firewire will finally be dropped from the Linux kernel altogether.
I have a feeling its mostly due to some audio and video hardware that has some real longevity. I’ve got a VHS+minidv player that I am transferring old videos from using FireWire (well, for the minidv. VHS is s-video capture).
I’m just passing a FireWire PCI card through to a VM though. Though with how old the box is, it doesnt really need to be a VM. Thats a whole different discussion though.
I had some FireWire audio interfaces too, 8ch and 16ch, but I got rid of those a while back. I’m sure someone’s making use of it though! Probably the m-audio delta 1010 I sold too, I think they are still going for a few hundred each despite being so long in the tooth.
I have a feeling its mostly due to some audio and video hardware that has some real longevity. I’ve got a VHS+minidv player that I am transferring old videos from using FireWire (well, for the minidv. VHS is s-video capture).
Yeah, that’s a thought…though honestly, unless whatever someone is doing requires real-time processing and adding latency is a problem, they can probably pass it through some other old device that can speak both Firewire and something else.
Probably the m-audio delta 1010
That doesn’t have a Firewire interface, does it? I thought I had one of those.
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Oh, I’m thinking of the 1010LT, not the 1010. That lives on a PCI card.
That doesn’t have a Firewire interface, does it? I thought I had one of those.
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Oh, I’m thinking of the 1010LT, not the 1010. That lives on a PCI card.
No I’m talking about the PCI card, just commenting on the longevity of some devices. I know two people still using FireWire for their interfaces in spare kit (RME fire faces), which got me thinking of some of my old kit I’ve replaced like the delta1010.
These days I’m mostly pushing dante around
Ah, gotcha. Just for the record — though it doesn’t really matter as regards your point, because I was incorrectly assuming that you were using it as an example of with something with Firewire onboard — there are apparently two different products:
The 1010 has a PCI card, but it talks to an external box:
The 1010LT has a PCI card alone, no external box, and then a ton of cables that fan out directly from the card:
Neither appears to have a Firewire interface. IIRC, the 1010LT was less expensive, was the one I was using.
PCI + BoB is what I had
I still have my FireWire card as I mentioned, but its only for that VHS + minidv deck (well and my old canon camcorder which does better with some of my minidvs. This process is going to take me years, I have so many to get through…)
I bought a PCIe card for FireWire slots, there might be a usb converter though. On windows it worked out of the box, and I used WinDV for importing video.
Same, when I was using it. It was just like USB: plug and pray.
The total allegedly includes subscriptions to Disney+, Hulu and ESPN. That falloff reportedly marked a 436 percent increase over the usual churn rate for the service.
So 317.000 users would have cancelled anyway and the actual protest was 1.3 million. If my googling is right, in total there are ~207 million subscribers.
Summarizing, they lost the 0,6%. Much more that what I expected, but hardly noticeable. I’d love to know how many already subscribed back.
It’s noticeable when you look at the price of the subscription. That’s almost $300 million.
Calculate the 0.6% of your wage: that’s what $300M is for them.
My wage doesn’t have a cost of goods sold line item. If I take in $5b and make $5.5b in revenue, $300m is > 1/2 of my net profit
True, but if you stop working your income drops to 0, while if Disney stops working, it still owns billions in assets.
That loss affects their stock price, their future outlook, what things they choose to fund, and how much they spend on advertising and trying to recover from this PR disaster.
I’m sure that lots of managers are having lots of meetings to discuss what happened, and that’s probably the hardest hit they had: noise.
The revenues will be slightly impacted but they will hardly notice it on quarterly reports.
Does that impact the company value? I don’t think so.
I suspect they’d have lost a lot more if this dragged on longer, he was back in a few days.
A previously-posted Gizmodo article said
Kabas reports that 1.7 million was 436% above a subscriber loss that’s typical for the same period
Which I thought was very useful.
Kabas is the reporter and I still haven’t seen where they got that number.
If my googling is right, in total there are ~207 million subscribers.
This says 128M, which seems far more plausible. https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/disney-stop-reporting-subscriber-numbers-disney-plus-hulu-espn-1236480413/
Yes, but I looked up Disney+, Hulu and ESPN combined.
I don’t think those numbers are additive like that - you’d be double-counting people.
They pay more than once as well?
True - I guess it depends on whether we’re defining “subscribers” as people or total paid accounts.
Corporate says the biggest number.
Consider that the full number is world wide. How many of them are US based or US involved?
No idea, but of Disney+, Hulu and ESPN, only Disney+ is available in the EU and it gets only a small fraction of the market.
Don’t roll over for the Orange Turd or you will pay the price.
Go woke or go broke 💪
I like “Go fash, lose cash.”
The anti Trump forces saw their power, revelled in it, and called it a day. It will not be applied to other companies.
It’s like the nationwide protests
Almost everyone I know who cancelled their subscription is happily renewing it now that Kimmel is back on the air. I’m sticking with donating to PBS every month instead.
We’re not. We were halfway out the door already with the lack of good content and increasing prices. This just gave us a needed push to actually cancel. We won’t resubscribe.
That’s how I feel about it too. Literally nothing I wanted to watch over there anyway. I’m not missing anything.
Let them know that I said that they are spineless for renewing
Fuck Disney, I even got my sister to change their vacation plans over it
I hope she’s not mad that it worked!
How many came back when he was reinstated?
Any positive integer (or rational or real, technically) number is too many.
I’m both galled and exhausted by how modern companies wield ‘intellectual property’.
And Disney is one of the worst for it.
Surprised it was only that many. Needs to triple.
I unsubscribed. Wasn’t really even using it.
I wonder what is worth more to ABC/Disney, all those direct subscribers, or these affiliates that are consolidating into two or three big media companies?
This might be the beginning of the death of the affiliate model. What would happen if Sinclair simply stopped affiliating with ABC altogether? They own enough stations that they can do their own thing. Would it matter if there is no ABC station in Mobile, Alabama, if people who still want to watch can stream it?
The problem for OTA affiliates/broadcasters is content. Their business model relies on getting eyeballs so they can justify what they charge for advertising. Creating content that your viewers actually want to watch is expensive.
Aside from some of the larger PBS stations, I don’t know that any of the major broadcasters, like Sinclair, have any experience producing their own content. They can throw their little tantrum and refuse to air Kimmel, but that’s just going to hurt them in the short term as advertisers will decide OTA timeslots are not a good investment.
Is there unpaid subscriptions?
Some subscriptions are part of a package. Like my cable internet package includes a ‘free’ Disney subscription that I can’t cancel.
free with purchase of course
