This dumbass is the embodiment of the MAGA dream.
Without guns, this would just be aome out of breath guy who’s trying to chase gay people while they make fun of him
Super bummed about all the fellowship’n afterChurch down at the Golden Corral. Prison may bring our big boy down a few kilos. The Lard works in mysterious weighs.
Charlie who? I thought that rage-du-jour was past its 15 minutes.
Rest in piss charlie kirk.
He deserves way worse than that. If there’s an afterlife that works like the Christians think it does, Kirk is going to be huffing sulfurous farts from the Devil’s asshole for eternity.
That fantasy crap doesn’t exist. He pissed himself and died like the subhuman scum he is. End of his story.
I’m 42 and have been struggling with mental health issues since I was a teenager. But seeing and hearing all of the maga talk and conspiracy’s makes me realize that I’ve had my shit together this whole time.
As a reminder to anybody of any age that is suffering with mental health issues, remember that you are loved and needed and every day might be a struggle, but just getting up and putting 1 foot in front of the other is more than enough to achieve a goal.
No u are loved and needed.
I thought that I was a fairly low-tier human for a long time. The Trump Regime has forced me to reevaluate. I am a decent person.
That is disturbing.
I remember stumbling on creationist debunks back in middle school and coming to the conclusion that I may be a dumbass but at least I ain’t completely delusional and a dumbass. This whole BS with the right wingers being fucking deranged and stupid has done wonders for my deranged mixed inferiority/superiority complex.
Same here. Those who are open to changing and dealing with it and doing the work can go really really far, too.
I wish guys like this weren’t stigmatized from admitting they need help, asking for it, and working on themselves.
That one, single downvote like, “say it ain’t so! You take that back!” 🤣
Crazy accurate for this case
Another MAGAt that looks like ISIS but with white skin.
Well ISIS is conservative.
Vanilla Isis
No ISIS guys weigh 400lb and wheeze to their gun safes.
The GOP sure knows how to inspire violence
Every single mass shooter has been claimed to be trans by Alex Jones for the past like 3 years. Before any evidence is out, 4chan posters will find a random trans persons social media profile, grab pictures and post them claiming they are the shooter. They claim that psych meds (like anti depressants) and hormones fuck with your head in a way that makes you crazy and wanting to shoot people.
This shit is on purpose to inspire dumbasses like this guy.
i know some of these far right conspiracy-minded fools. nothing can break them out of their delusion.
I miss the old 4chan where their politics were insane justifications to commit whatever acts of terrorism in the middle of their venn diagram of “things they feel like doing” and “things they have the capacity to do” but weren’t right or left but politically confused, angry, and kinda insane. The 4chan of anonymous instead of the 5 4chan of kiwifarms
He’s facing federal charges?
So, you mean that he’ll be let free. I’m calling it now. They’re going to try and paint him as a victim of political targeting by “woke” agents. Goofy Eyes Patel will then dismiss the charges and fire the agents.
Charlie wouldn’t have wanted this! Oh, wait, charlie kirk? Yeah, he’d have wanted this. Disregard.
Which Charlie were you thinking of? Charlie the unicorn probably would have handed him an AK-47 just to watch the chaos…
Think of the candy mountain, Charlie!
The kid who bites fingers is in full support too
I’m a bit lost. Wasn’t the killer a far right dude who disliked Kirk and MAGA for not being far right enough/in the same ways as him?
Can someone get me up to date?
Conclusions drawn from evidence and the testimony from friends suggested that he leaned libertarian without taking an explicit political position.
We have no idea why he killed Kirk. He is not going to talk because they said they would execute him before they caught him. The shooter now has no reason to cooperate.
The only actual evidence we’ve been shown is that he was largely apolitical but grew up in a MAGA family, and at some point in time began disliking CK, possibly due to a pendulum swing against his hard right family after moving out. There’s no real evidence to support that he was hard right or hard left, or in fact had any strong political affiliations. Only that he disliked the guy he shot enough to shoot him.
Facts are irrelevant to these people. They trust nobody’s word beyond those who affirm what they want to believe.
Doesn’t matter. That first dopamine hit about trans “rhetoric” got him and that is all his tiny little Texas brain needed. America is a giant puddle of gasoline and the regime here keeps flicking lit matches at it.
I was also under the same impression, but it seems to have grown less clear?
https://voxpoliticalonline.com/2025/09/15/tyler-robinsons-groyper-connection-truth-or-conspiracy-theory/In any case, Kirk enjoyers have never been known to let facts get in the way of their hate
Hearing that old dude read the messages was pretty fucking telling that they are making that shit up. No kid, especially a terminally 4chan one, talks like that. Maybe the stuff about the wrapping of the weapon and where he left it, but no kid is talking like a WWII love sick soldier stuck overseas.
Careful. Confirmation bias makes it exceptionally easy to come up with reasons to disbelieve things that don’t fit what we presume about a topic.
I think it’s fair to say we don’t know the shooter’s motivations for sure. Being confident that the shooter was far right just because his family is seems just as terrible a conclusion to jump to. How many of us have conservative families we disagree with?
I’m pretty sure the dude wasn’t going “oh my love how I long for thee” like the old dude was saying.
Why not? You didn’t know anyone in college who liked to speak differently sometimes, whether for fun, to be ironic, or to be flowery and “romantic”? People are figuring out who they are in college, some people do stuff other people might consider weird. That type of language doesn’t shock me at all.
Yeah, but they were dorks like myself and very much not inclined to be watching shit from the manosphere or shoot someone.
I know you’re just playing devil’s advocate, but you gotta Occam’s razor this shit i.e.; if you have to make so many assumptions you’re on the wrong path. What is most likely, is most likely by a large margin.
I think what they’re doing is more than playing devil’s advocate in the modern use, using it more as the original meaning of advocating skepticism and caution when coming to conclusions. I think you both have points, but holy hell it’s refreshing seeing someone calling for calming down and thinking skeptically on the internet when speaking to their own side.
Yep, the kid came from a place that is whiter than the service of the moon. A place where nearly everyone belongs to at least two hardcore cults. A place so insulated, so terrified of any culture that isn’t their own. I would think it’s extremely unusual if he used a more modern tone and vocabulary.
I would think it’s extremely unusual if he used a more modern tone and vocabulary.
I don’t know that I’d find that unusual, either, honestly. Judging by the bullet memes, he was clearly very “online.”
People are complicated. It’s convenient and very tempting to put everyone into neat boxes, but individuals often don’t fit into those boxes. Not completely.
I’ve been very online since the most common connection speed was 9.6 kbps. Terminally online in both the pun and colloquial sense since 20 years before the term was coined.
Memes are memes. Not a language to themselves. You still generally reflect the larger community around you. While I largely choose to speak with a more neutral to even mid Atlantic accent. When I’m around it I easily fall back into rural southern/midwestern accents. Because that’s what I grew up around.
Thanks
It doesn’t matter what he believed, they have blamed it on the left so it’s now the left’s fault
they blame everything on the left.
Surprised they havent blamed trump having to climb up an escalator as an elaborate antifa terrorist attack on the sanctity of american decency.
They actually did
Oh they definitely tried too, Fox News was talking about bombing the UN headquarters. It just happened to come out pretty quick that the dumb shits did it to themselves.
Surprised they havent blamed trump having to climb up an escalator as an elaborate antifa terrorist attack on the sanctity of american decency.
They have though…
why am i not surprised.
Yes, but the fascists blamed it on trans people before the blood hit the floor.
omg no more late night show for you
I don’t think so. That’s what a lot of people were speculating. But seems like he mostly grew up in a MAGA family, but was queer himself, so a bit alienated from the MAGA movement due to the homophobia within it and mostly stayed out of talking about politics with his friends. Seems like he mostly just saw Kirk as a danger to himself and those he loved because of Kirk doing things like promoting violence against queer people.
Source that he was queer?
https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/exclusive-leaked-messages-from-charlie
Source claiming Tyler was bisexual. Obviously not definitive evidence, but its not like they can do a blood test and prove his sexuality or something - they best you are likely to get is his friends saying he was or was not.
I wasn’t referencing him dating someone who is allegedly trans, since a man dating a woman wouldn’t be evidence of not being an allocishet. OTOH, if his lover is not trans, then it would be evidence that he isn’t straight.
Yeah, this is what I was looking for, not random comments that go through different filters. Google was giving me speculation garbage. Thank you!
He was allegedly in a relationship with his roommate, who may be trans.
Or may be Maga. Or may be both. Now I’m confused as the next person but seeing as how I don’t identify as either, I for one are as grateful AF. As are most of the people I know that are saying Holy S—t, WTF? I’m glad i said it earlier & got it out of my system. The confusion of the current state of madness should be felt by all. Therefore, God (Or no god if one prefers, that’s super ok too!) help us all. Where do we choose to go next? I reckon we’ll see.
Ok but where is a source reporting this? My googling is getting me Reddit or other right wing forum comments, or news articles repeating those comments as “sources”. Is it all just baseless speculation right now?
Yeah, that’s why I used “allegedly”, because these claims are very shaky and hard to prove one way or the other. A lot of it seems fabricated to me.
Oh I see, thanks for the clarification. I thought perhaps someone went around and interviewed people who knew the shooter and that’s what the “allegedly” was for (2nd hand but somewhat verified), since there’s so much information about the family out there too. My bad for the misinterpretation.
We have text messages between the shooter and the roommate. If you want to call those fake, that’s your right, but that’s going to be a major piece of evidence in the trial.
In the texts from the indictment, the shooter says:
I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can’t be negotiated out.
The shooter also calls the roommate “my love”. There are some friends, neighbors, acquaintances corroborating that they were in a relationship.
The roommate’s gender identity isn’t 100% clear. There seems to be some evidence from social media accounts that they’re trans.
I don’t think you can call this shooter “far right”. Not clear that he’s a groyper in my opinion. The Discord messages are pretty milquetoast. I certainly wouldn’t call him a leftist either. Seems he was (more than) okay with LGBTQ folks, but that doesn’t tell you much about his broader views.
I’m not calling anything fake or a conspiracy, I’ve just been seeing a lot of people discussing things as facts and when I ask for firsthand sources (ie. the text messages you describe) they say they have personally don’t have one, someone just told them about it.
The OP provided a link for me though, so I was able to go through them myself as well. Your comment was also illuminating, thanks!
Fair enough. I only made the comment about calling the texts fake because some people seem to be making that claim, usually alongside the idea that a 20-something wouldn’t text like that - the “my love” in particular. Your typical 20-something also wouldn’t do an assassination, so it’s a spurious line of reasoning.
The same people hiding the pedos? OK I guess…
That means he is in a queer relationship, but not that he is queer. I suppose that doesn’t matter to conservatives either way.
Also that info is incredibly sus and sounds fake af. The way the fbi director talks is sus, as he clearly isn’t all that competent and keeps bragging about how quickly they could release info, which is not how investigations work.
The same people who provided this as “evidence” of the ICE shooters ideology.
That means he is in a queer relationship, but not that he is queer.
Sure, but that certainly lowers the likelihood that he’s a far-right Kirk-hater, no?
Grindr always reports a spike in usage whenever the RNC convenes. Being gay or in a queer relationship sadly doesn’t mean that the person isn’t far right. They might just be self-loathing.
The suggestion wasn’t that the shooter was secretly queer.
Only if true
Obviously. But same goes for the accusations that he’s far-right – of which there doesn’t really seem to be anything to go off.
I mean he’s a vile piece of shit but this is like, par for the course chatting shit for west texans. This doesn’t even remotely read as an actual threat to me. You have to understand these are uncivilized and stupid people who have thoughts only marginally more sophisticated than their cattle and dogs.
haha what if shoot (thing we don’t like) we should do that.
They’re stupid but not ‘genuinely invite homie to do a mass shooting together with a public faceboook post’ stupid. Even these yokels would assume ‘surely nobody would take this literally.’ Who among us hasn’t seen a picture of a white nationalist march and thought things you wouldn’t post publicly. It’s that frame of mind but if you were a bigot and too dumb to have a filter.
tldr; put him in the reeducation camp for bigotry, not for posting
They’re all talk until one of them actually shoots some people, which regularly happens.
You can say ‘they’re all talk until they’re not’ about anyone. There is no doubt in my mind that this guy would gladly do some gay bashing if he was getting out of some shitty abiline bar/““honky-tonk”” and saw somebody visibly queer walking into a relatively isolated street. But I also understand the gulf between that and publicly planning a mass shooting. Don’t get me wrong, I hate this exact type of hick in a way that is indefensibly bigoted in it’s own right. But they aren’t that stupid.
You can say ‘they’re all talk until they’re not’ about anyone.
Sure, you can say anything about anybody. But that does not mean it is equally accurate in all cases. That’s why we pay attention to actions and history.
That’s exactly why kirk must rest in piss
The media did this on purpose
The Republicans you mean.
That’s what they said
I think they meant billionaires
Still the same
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