The navy frigate sent by Spain to accompany the humanitarian Global Sumud Flotilla of around fifty volunteer-crewed vessels taking aid to Gaza is unlikely to intervene to prevent any attacks by Israel on the fleet, which Israel has bombed and harassed nightly since its arrival in the Mediterranean.
So it’s just there to stand by, watch, and count the bodies. A perfect microcosm of the “civilised” West’s approach to Gaza
It’s making me think that the Israelis are actually planning on sinking some of the flotillas ships, and have made an under the table arrangement with Spain to rescue survivors.
Yes this is how I see it too. These ship are there to prevent the headlines if people would have drowned once the israeli army sinks the floatillas.
Exactly.
There is still the very real possibility Israel attacks the military ships anyway
They have literally killed and bombed American and European citizens with total impunity. What difference does it make that they’re on boats?
something like 170+ casualties on the USS Liberty plus dozens and dozens dead and israel iirc faced no consequences whatsoever
how many hostages did hamas allegedly take btw??
There’s a difference between killing people who happen to be citizens of a state versus a targeted attack on its military.
They could nuke New York and it wouldn’t change a thing. The US and its European lapdogs are in the colonizing business til the end.
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Oh yeah I’m not saying that instantly invokes article V and suddenly NATO invades Israel or anything, but it would be an even bigger scandal
the IOF can still bomb, board, etc. and the Spanish+Italian ships are there to make sure no one drowns…? what the fuck did i just read?
seems an attempt by the gov’t to try to appease the masses (“SEE! WE ARE DOING SOMETHING!”) while in effect doing nothing
seems an attempt by the gov’t to try to appease the masses (“SEE! WE ARE DOING SOMETHING!”) while in effect doing nothing
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Precisely, which is why it’s odd that the people calling this out for what it was two days ago were ignored/shit on as everyone suddenly started thinking southern Europe was going to pick a fight with America
Wasn’t it known from the start they were just there to fish people out of the water at best? To me these naval ships being sent always was more about the fact (especially in Italy) that public opinion has swung so far in support of Palestine that this relatively token gesture even happened.
It says something about the spread of anti-Zionism in the general public of the west that governments even felt necessary to have this fig leaf. That’s something that the Palestine movement can work with. It’s a sign of progress within the masses on this issue.
I appreciate this note of optimism because it just made me sad to see the one piece of good news in recent weeks taken away almost immediately.
It says something about the spread of anti-Zionism in the general public of the west that governments even felt necessary to have this fig leaf. That’s something that the Palestine movement can work with. It’s a sign of progress within the masses on this issue.
That was the reason to celebrate in the first place. Spain and Italy still do not sanction israhell.
we hear you, we see you.
Spanish navy: We are here to assist1 and rescue2.
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The IOF
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The aid to Israelis
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Hope Israel sinks the Spanish ship then, just for the laughs
no more half measures walter
got a call from Amerikkka
for some reason I think I would’ve preferred if they just didn’t send any ships to ‘aid’ whatsoever, this is simply humiliating and makes me feel so fucking bad and depressed
Well, I can hope this will at least galvanize local resistance. To see that the government can be influenced towards doing something, yet also infuriated at the half measure. It shows a weakness that can be hit again, ideally.
I remember thinking “what’s the catch?” when I first heard about Spain and Italy sending a navy ship, and now I got my answer. How predictable.
Something… always… happens (for the worst) 😞
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I thought for a minute they were sending in the USS Libtard.
can someone explain the purpose of the flotilla. Israel is not gonna let it pass. No military is gonna escort it so it can reach its destination without israel preventing it. It seems to me the only possible purpose the members of the flotilla have is to be martyred by israel, and israel wins by not killing them. Do the crew of the flotilla even understand this?
You can see past flotillas, which generally did not have the crew martyred. The point isn’t for the crew to die, which they probably won’t but to show the undeniable barbarity of Israel blocking aid via first-hand documentation.
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Do the crew of the flotilla even understand this?
Do you honestly think they’ve gotten as far as they have without thinking over everything you, random Internet commenter, could possibly consider?
Reality check: The navies of the West aren’t going to prevent any attacks, nor do I expect it to go into territorial waters. At best1 they will serve as a chilling effect for the Isn’trealians by serving as a potential witness.
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does something really stupidcool. Italy and Spain are NATO, and an attack might trigger Article 5.Article 5 is not automatic, otherwise NATO would’ve been pulled into direct¹ war with Russia by Poland
¹I acknowledge that NATO is essentially fighting a proxy war with Russia already
I know, but one can dream~
It wouldn’t cause NATO to act against Israel. NATO is not a defensive alliance and never was. It’s part of the US empire, as is Israel.
This just reminded me of a wild take I saw on Twitter yesterday
One person was talking about how it’s frustrating that people talk about Canada Post losing money (I assume they’re in a similar situation to the USPS) but never do the same for the military.
Someone replies that Canada Post shouldn’t be run for profit (*nodding along*) but that military spending is really good, actually (uh…), and that if Canada had a better-funded military they could stop the genocide in Gaza (???).
Pissreal hogs may be greed but they know to not trigger Article 5. Plus, Italy and Spain won’t let them, because they’ll stay back while the flotilla gets bombed.
