• prole [any, any]@hexbear.net
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    8 days ago

    At first I doubted this, but then I started thinking about the people driving the Russian rev in 1917 and they were pretty much all 30+ or even older.

    Same thing in Cuba. China was also a bunch of olds even before the CPC was established and they were just overthrowing the Qing dynasty.

    I’ve never really thought too hard about this, but it’s interesting considering there’s a common belief in many leftist circles (particularly anarchists it seems) that people over ~25 can’t be trusted. I guess that sort of makes sense, older people (especially in the imperial core) are much more attached to the status quo.

    Now I’m wondering if the feds managed to plant this idea as a way to keep people disorganized and further divide the proletariat or if we just suck at thinking long-term

    • la_tasalana_intissari_mata [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      7 days ago

      it’s not about the age, it’s about the advertising, you don’t want a “youth revolution” or a “revolution started by gen xyz for freedom and democracy” you want a socialist revolution, you want a anti-colonial revolution. The guys in Burkina Faso were very young, but they labeled themselves as a revolution against colonialism that follows the steps of Thomas Sankara.

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        7 days ago

        yes, we don’t want a revolution without no ideology, otherwise, in our neoliberal dominated world, the neolibs will dominate.

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          7 days ago

          A color revolution is like a surgery with no surgeon, there’s a sickness in the state and you need an operation, so you just stab the state and leave it open in the street hoping there’s someone in the street who can do the rest. The CIA and NGOs in this metaphor are a backstreet “surgeon” who are selling the organs of the state.

          ^ not an analysis but an expression of frustration.

    • I’ve always heard it as “don’t trust anyone over 30” and associated it with the hippies who are the quintessential co-opted social movement.

      I never thought of it before but this phrase of “don’t trust your elders” is essentially a way of saying “trust every revolution except the ones that succeed”

    • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.net
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      8 days ago

      Mao made pretty good use of the youth in the cultural revolution but that was not a particularly good event either.