• mechoman444@lemmy.world
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    The post isn’t wrong, but there’s some nuance to it. With the credit thing, it’s true that women couldn’t reliably get their own credit until 1974. That’s when the Equal Credit Opportunity Act passed, which finally made it illegal for banks to require a husband or male co-signer. Before that, a lot of women could be and were turned away outright, even if they had the income to qualify. So the way it’s phrased is a bit simplified, but the gist is accurate.

    The marital rape part is more complicated. Nebraska was actually the first state to outlaw it in 1976, and then other states slowly followed. By 1993, every state had removed the explicit marital exemption from their rape laws. That said, a lot of states still had narrower definitions, weaker penalties, or loopholes, so saying it became “illegal nationwide in 1994” smooths over a messy process. What really happened is that by the early ’90s, no state could outright say “marital rape doesn’t exist” anymore, but enforcement and protections still varied a lot.

    So, while the tweet compresses the details, the broader point stands: these changes are incredibly recent. We’re only a generation or two removed from a time when women couldn’t open a line of credit on their own and had virtually no legal protection if their husbands assaulted them.

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    Gays: yeah, we know.

    Homosexuality was removed from the DSM (classification of mental disorders, for which people were institutionalized against their will) also in 1974. Big year for civil rights I guess.

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    Honestly, if women, as well as persons of color and the LGBTQIA+ community, having rights and freedoms is such a threat to America - both as a country and a “way of life” - and they cannot coexist, then as an American I would happily say goodbye to America.

    ~What that means, and how that would work, scares the ever loving shit out of me, but no one deserves the shit America does to them.~

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      I feel the same, but also fuck that I was born here and I will not be run off by goddamn nazis. On one hand I’d like to leave, the other hand would like to punch every fascist over and over until THEY fuck off.

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      It’s not a threat to America, but to a few elites, christian fundamentalists, and white nationalists. They just convinced others to follow suit.

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      If you’re going to emigrate, you better do it fast. I wouldn’t bet that it’s still possible without significant effort (“hide for 1000 miles in a lead-lined suitcase in a car trunk”-levels of effort) in a year - locking in their population is a really common thing in dictatorships, and AFAIK confiscated passports (if you had a proper passport in the first place) are already a thing in the US.

      Plus, if there’s ever a mass emigration wave, many of the more desirable destion countries are definitely going to close the door to you. AFAIK it’s already fairly complicated to emigrate from the US to most european countries.

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        Depends on how other countries (particularly Canada) would feel about refugees.

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          Judging by what I’ve seen so far, wealthy countries don’t care for refugees even if they’re well-educated people from the US. On top of that, the US is able to exert pressure on most western countries to not make them recognize the US as unsafe for asylum seekers, even if a destination country wants to do it.

          Maybe something like Brazil might be an option, but it’s politically volatile - next time it has a rightwing government, all the US refugees might be shipped back to the US. Seems like at this point, all the countries that are consistently willing to oppose the US are either not much better or too volatile to be sure that they won’t turn on you.

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          I was thinking more along the lines of the German Democratic Republic or North Korea - Israel at least lets its Jewish population emigrate, but in many dictatorships, absolutely no one is allowed to. Not sure which it’s going to be, Apartheit-style or North Korea-style, but if you’re not part of the ingroup, the difference probably doesn’t matter.

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            I remember meeting a guy from East Berlin soon after the Wall fell, he was super excited at getting to travel outside the GDR (we were in Kenya).

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    Oh, America is not alone here. Plenty of places without even that one generation

    Honestly, I have to suspect a giant coordinated effort against women and feminine aspect of life spanning damn hundreds, if not thousands, of years. Otherwise I cannot fathom and explanation of how things have gone so ugly for so long

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      and that’s the patriarchy. if it was the natural order it wouldn’t require so much energy to maintain

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    I mean yes this is bad, but America is not going to end itself just because women have rights. A lot more to it than that reductive take

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      This is also part of it.

      Fascism begins the moment a ruling class, fearing the people may use their political democracy to gain economic democracy, begins to destroy political democracy in order to retain its power of exploitation and special privilege.

      • Tommy Douglas

      https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Tommy_Douglas

      Thomas Clement Douglas PC MP CC SOM MA LL.D (20 October 1904 – 24 February 1986) was a Scottish Canadian politician who served as Premier of Saskatchewan from 1944 to 1961 and Leader of the New Democratic Party from 1961 to 1971… …Douglas was voted “The Greatest Canadian” of all time in a nationally televised contest organized by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation in 2004.

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      Hard-fought victories

      I don’t think women’s rights (especially the right to work) have been “hard-fought” in any way.

      Sure there have been protests and riots of women who demanded these rights, but that did jack shit to change the situation. What really changed the situation was the insight of capitalists that they could get more workers, and thus more productive ability, if women joined the workforce. All it took for that is to influence the media to make these new policies seem preferable, and the people accepted it.

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        That’s an utterly fucking bizarre position considering that women in the workplace far predate women’s rights.

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          This is, unfortunately, a common libertarian take. The best economic decision says to not discriminate as the more workers you have, the more you produce, thus the free market is what really created these civil rights.

          It completely ignores history, but that is a pretty common libertarian take.

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    [O]n one occasion during 1989, Mr. Trump and I had marital relations in which he behaved very differently toward me than he had during our marriage. As a woman, I felt violated, as the love and tenderness, which he normally exhibited towards me, was absent. I referred to this as a “rape”, but I do not want my words to be interpreted in a literal or criminal sense.[34]

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      Direct quote from Trump’s mouth a few days ago. With regard to crime in DC while he’s had the National Guard in.

      Come to think of it, Melania was wearing a hat that completely blocked her face from cameras …

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        Wouldn’t surprise me if that was her choice in an attempt to prevent her face from appearing too often in future history textbooks.