• Laser@feddit.org
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    Merz conflates criticism of Israel’s politics (partially backed by the population) with criticism against the country as in a Jewish state per se. You can be pro-Israel and still condemn the genocide in Gaza. Same as you can still be an American patriot and condemn the actions of the Trump admin.

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      I don’t like Israel as a Jewish state, but that’s more about my belief that all states should be explicitly secular and ethnicity-neutral.

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    If this was the Irish PM saying this, or the Spanish PM saying this, i would really be paying attention and taking it seriously. The German Chancellor? Whose country has a “staatsraison” to prioritize the “security” of a genocidal apartheid regime no matter what? Yea, you can fuck right off.

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    Probably because zionists are working so hard to keep the two terms synonymous. That’s not a justificatory reason to continue to actively support a genocidal state politically.

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      Exactly: The State of Israel and its regime is one thing and the jewish religion a completely different one.

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        Even more:

        Religion != Ethnicity != State != Government

        And that ethnicity is not only in this context incrisingly used as a stand-in for race…

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          Religion != Ethnicity is only partially true in this case, though: The Jewish religion puts quite an effort to viewing all Jews as a singular nation and ethnicity.

          But the main sentiment still holds: It is not acceptable to hate Jews in general for the state of Israel committing a genocide.

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    What about the Jewish people who oppose the genocide in Palestine? Are they anti-semitic too?

    The pro-murdering Palestinian children lobby is working overtime.

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    Because criticism of Israel is way worse than killing thousands of innocent people and slow torturing the rest.

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        Outside of the UK, USA and Germany, you can criticise Israel for their genocidal tendencies.

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          Using criticism as pretext for hating Jews ain’t good, still. You can not do that. You can also not genocide the Moslem.

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            Nobody said otherwise.

            But mentioning that every time someone mentions the genocide is just deflection, and not the priority.

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              The comment literally said let’s talk about Muslim hate instead. That’s deflection too.

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                No, it’s pointing out the deflection, and prioritising tens of thousands of deaths (thousands of children) over it.

                There are two things happening.

                One is genocide

                One is growing blame for the Jewish people.

                Both are incorrect.

                The first thing to concentrate on stopping is the genocide.

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    There is a kernel of truth in what he says in that attacks on jews have increased significantly, which is horrible and wrong and needs to be fought, no doubt about that at all.

    But granting unwavering support to a government that is currently engaged in what the UN has officially determined to be a genocide? That is clearly and horribly wrong. What else has to happen before the german government decides to stop supplying weapons? How much is too much? Like, is there a threshold of civilians killed?

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      Nie wieder? Hah. Doch. “Nie wieder” ist so gestern!

      That’s about what Merz’s words mean, in practical sense.

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    There will be an element of truth here, but knowing many Germans, I suspect nothing at all like a representative number or even close to significant.