i’m taking crazy pills? that his references are from “hell divers”, a game that is apparently just clone of V’s Starship Troopers, a liberal satire of fascism, is evidence that the kid is not a liberal?
It’s not that they don’t understand, a lot of them understand exactly what the intended meaning is. But a lot of that media portrays fascists as powerful, with aesthetics that they like, and often they are winning too, so they pretend that the message is pro-fascist. If you call them out for “missing the point” or being media illiterate, you’re the one who’s missing the point, because now you’re the one saying that the things that are cool, good looking, and winning, are actually bad. In their words, “When the media literacy kicks in and the giant man eating bugs are the good guys” i.e. the ‘correct’ interpretation of the media is aesthetically inferior to the fascist one, which is straightforward and self-evident.
A lot of fascists like doing X ≠ People who do X are fascist.
That’s not a right wing troll, check their profile. They’re just keeping us honest because we (and I’ve been doing it a lot myself) have been doing some pretty bad mental gymnastics to find ways to avoid the most likely explanation of this whole ordeal: Charlie Kirk got got by someone who didn’t like him for his bigotry, not a groyper or someone radicalized by O9A/764/some nazi group.
We’re not playing devil’s advocate, we just have a materialist outlook on the world and don’t believe the world works like you do. Our priorities are different because we think different things are important. We are under no illusion that any “list” released would contain the full truth or result in any consequences for the ruling class. We understand how the world works, and it doesn’t result in magical consequences for the rulers without first a revolution.
You are putting the cart before the horse. You want the consequences for the rich pedos before we have power. Screaming into the void won’t accomplish anything, we have to actually take the power first before doing anything
In regards to the discussion of the politics of the Charlie Kirk shooter - the correct answer is to say “who fucking cares” not quibble over semantics endlessly trying to assess if we get points or lose points for him being on our “team”. He’s a lone individual actor, not connected to any movement, and his politics are irrational and pointless to discern. The Charlie Kirk shooting is the death of one asshole out of tens of thousands that die in the US every year from gun violence. The correct response to all this should be a giant fart noise, not making convoluted mental gymnastics why this guy is actually a groyper.
Star Wars was a cult classic loved by everyone regardless of political party.
Are you trying to point out how fascists love shows like Star Wars that are intended to paint them as the bad guys and therefore liking or referencing something like helldivers isn’t really evidence of anything?
You have to make up your own delusions on the spot to cope with the fact you want to hate us SO BADLY yet can’t figure out a reason to.
I think you are misunderstanding the person you are replying to. You should have specified what delusions you think they have to make it more clear what you are trying to communicate.
Since, you know. Your own cultist psychos are the ones taking pot shots at your other cultist psychos.
At least assuming the messages here and from discord are from Tyler and not taken out of context, it doesn’t exactly seem like this guy is maga cultist, but instead a rather apolitical and semi-closeted queer son of mormon+maga cultists who killed someone for spreading queerphobia. Of course there’s still the Trump shooter…
i’m taking crazy pills? that his references are from “hell divers”, a game that is apparently just clone of V’s Starship Troopers, a liberal satire of fascism, is evidence that the kid is not a liberal?
what the fuck are we talking about?
satire of fascism is not really understood by fascists.
fascists elements have adopted anti fascist works such as “tomorrow belongs to me”.
warhammer 40k which iirc started by punks and is a satire exaggeration of fascist themes, is well loved by reactionaries/fascist elements
hmm thanks for the write up, you are correct - my words were poorly put together
He said not a leftist, everyone here know he’s is a liberal of either blue or red flavor
Not really defending the groyper theory here, but the right wing brain is famously incapable of understanding satire.
at a certain point it wraps back around to understanding it and embracing its aesthetics anyway
What part of “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds” needs to be explained?
The insane mental gymnastics with you nazis is truly exhausting… Star Wars was a cult classic loved by everyone regardless of political party.
You have to make up your own delusions on the spot to cope with the fact you want to hate us SO BADLY yet can’t figure out a reason to.
Since, you know. Your own cultist psychos are the ones taking pot shots at your other cultist psychos.
What are you talking about?
Read the comments and you’ll find out!
Who are you accusing of being nazis? What cult are you talking about? Who’s taking potshots at who?
Let me guess, new account.
I can’t tell if they think Ottoboy empire is a right wing troll, or if this is a right winger who thinks hexbears are nazis, or something else.
The former, yes.
That’s not a right wing troll, check their profile. They’re just keeping us honest because we (and I’ve been doing it a lot myself) have been doing some pretty bad mental gymnastics to find ways to avoid the most likely explanation of this whole ordeal: Charlie Kirk got got by someone who didn’t like him for his bigotry, not a groyper or someone radicalized by O9A/764/some nazi group.
Regardless, it was done by a white kid from a MAGA family who was apparently into guns.
It’s always been as simple as that. The right makes it complex, and then the whole discussion becomes complex.
You’re just wasting time playing Devil’s advocate, what a god damn waste.
Paraphrasing Hegel — the entirety of world history has led up to this moment, why shouldn’t it be complex?
we’re all here posting on hexbear, what are you talking about wasting time like we could instead be making valuable revolutionary shitposts
There’s no rightwing people on this website, they are banned on sight
Thanks for the clarification. I guess that’s why everyone here just picks fights with each other.
I don’t understand the need to play Devil’s advocate, still. Like why. It’s just sowing divisiveness.
We’re not playing devil’s advocate, we just have a materialist outlook on the world and don’t believe the world works like you do. Our priorities are different because we think different things are important. We are under no illusion that any “list” released would contain the full truth or result in any consequences for the ruling class. We understand how the world works, and it doesn’t result in magical consequences for the rulers without first a revolution.
You are putting the cart before the horse. You want the consequences for the rich pedos before we have power. Screaming into the void won’t accomplish anything, we have to actually take the power first before doing anything
In regards to the discussion of the politics of the Charlie Kirk shooter - the correct answer is to say “who fucking cares” not quibble over semantics endlessly trying to assess if we get points or lose points for him being on our “team”. He’s a lone individual actor, not connected to any movement, and his politics are irrational and pointless to discern. The Charlie Kirk shooting is the death of one asshole out of tens of thousands that die in the US every year from gun violence. The correct response to all this should be a giant fart noise, not making convoluted mental gymnastics why this guy is actually a groyper.
Let me guess, terminally online?
You’re on hexbear.net.
…which was easy enough to find with a 5 second Google search.
damn i just typed chapo.chat in my address bar. imagine googling for us
The ego is wild
Sir, this is a Taco Bell
Are you trying to point out how fascists love shows like Star Wars that are intended to paint them as the bad guys and therefore liking or referencing something like helldivers isn’t really evidence of anything?
I think you are misunderstanding the person you are replying to. You should have specified what delusions you think they have to make it more clear what you are trying to communicate.
At least assuming the messages here and from discord are from Tyler and not taken out of context, it doesn’t exactly seem like this guy is maga cultist, but instead a rather apolitical and semi-closeted queer son of mormon+maga cultists who killed someone for spreading queerphobia. Of course there’s still the Trump shooter…