I get this is something marginalized folks must live with on a daily basis and none of this is surprising, but I’m a white cishet guy and this stuff is eye opening and (further) radicalizing to me.

The entire social response to Kirk getting merc’d is literally the can-excuse-1 can-excuse-2 meme. Down to bone.

White, cishet, male-dominated society (and the mainstream media that extends from it) has decided that, okay, maybe Kirk said some very pointed or occasionally untoward comments. But really, can any of those words compare to being willing to debate in the Marketplace of Ideas? Ok, maybe he was a bit racist. Maybe he didn’t care for trans folks. Sure, that’s all a bit rude. But he was willing to discuss his ideas and be civil about it (ok, maybe not civil, but he didn’t kill anyone over it), and in the end that’s all that really matters, right?

Politicians, the media, and a good chunk of society is basically saying how marginalized people may feel about all this is entirely irrelevant. Any sort of speech that is racist, sexist, or bigoted is excusable so long as the subject serves the broader neoliberal, white supremacist, settler project.

Marg bar Amrika.

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    I’m in a soccer league, very normie, games once a week, all people in their 20s-40s.

    Not a single person who talked about it on my team felt bad for him. And they’re all normies lmao

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      Yeah this is exactly what I mean. Most people do not give a fuck because they know he was a shit. People do not care when horrible people die. They might not actively wish death on them every day but they also don’t shed tears when they die.

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        Most people do not give a fuck because they know he was a shit.

        Wishful thinking. The average person does not even know who Charlie Kirk is. And now they’re watching their government and every normie institution either mythologize him or normalize him. The propaganda machine is working overtime to manufacture consent.

        The war is being waged on the margins, creeping in slowly. You’re looking for a dam breaking moment, you will never notice it even when it happens.

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          I have a friend that had no idea who kirk was. His response was basically “why this guy and not trump or alex jones” I had to explain the whole groyper situation which is unfortunate because not knowing about nick fuentes is a blessing.

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        Saw a white guy going about how the rest of the civilized world is watching us Americans in disgust lol. I’m just trying to watch video game tutorials so I get called less slurs in my pew pew games, why do I have white colonial descendants condescending me in my YouTube feed?

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        We were all good until the one conservative guy who is constantly taking about how Palestinians are dogs and cat calling women all day decided he was gonna go to HR saying that the women in the office made him feel unsafe at work.

        Luckily he ended up getting fired once people had to make statements on the record about what he said.

        Of course, he’s saying it’s because he a Christian and being oppressed, but it’s because he’s a sexpest that praises violence against minorities and women while crying when it’s a white man.

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            He’s immediately trying the grift lol, getting Facebook chuds to send him money for lawyers. What’s funny is that this company is literally owned by Trumpers, but they know where their bread is buttered lol

            More instances of all this shit just being infighting on the right that we just have to live with.