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    7 hours ago

    I voted for Trump. There is 0 defense for the stuff he’s doing. The best thing I’ve heard is all the higher ups are “apart of a club” that we’re not in. No matter the side, I just want to world better for everyone.

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      Why the fuck did you vote trump then?!?! Better for everyone?!?! Everyone told you he was going to do all this shit. I blame you. I blame every dumb mother fucker that is just like you. You ruined america because youre a fucking moron. Fuck you, asshole.

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      “Apart” means distanced from. “A part” means a piece of.

      They’re not the same word. Of course, if you had received an education that had taught you the difference, then you wouldn’t have voted for trump.

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      7 hours ago

      I want the World BETTER for Everyone so I Voted for the Man who Campaigned on LITERALLY making the World WORSE for the Majority of People!

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        Fuck this dude. Anyone that thought a vote for trump was a vote for everyone’s wellbeing is a fucking moron.

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        Given what they said regarding disagreeing with Trump’s current actions, why did you feel like your response was the best way to engage?
        After the repeated examples over the last decade, I think everyone in the world should have learned by now that shame, aggression, and shade dripping with schadenfreude doesn’t change opinions or actions.
        If you are truly concerned about making things worse for others, you might want to examine the way you interact with other human beings. Because the short term dopamine isn’t worth contributing to the division that’s been made worse by targeted, algorithmic influence.
        We are all being fed a curated version of reality designed to appeal to our biases and stoke fear and outrage. I think we need to learn to show some grace to people who we don’t fully agree with, who are trying to reach across the divide, and who might be coming to terms with the ways in which they may have been misled or caught up in an enticing movement.
        And I’m not saying this is easy. It certainly isn’t satisfying. I love barbed and bitter witicisms. Being shitty to someone who I feel deserves it scratches this itch in my brain that I am neither proud of, nor can deny. But it’s also the definition of being selfish, since it helps no one. So idk, you do you I guess?

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        I’m literally with you guys that he’s not done good. But his promises were made to make things better for the working man, which hasn’t been done. My state might be different than yours, but both candidates would’ve crippled us. Joe was plagued with dementia and Harris is just as bad. We really didn’t have any good candidates this time.

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          “Harris is just as bad”

          Mind elaborating on why you think a sensible, middle-aged experienced prosecutor with decades of contacts in government was somehow just as bad as two 80-something year olds, and how you concluded that the best vote was for the guy literally wanting to be a dictator and who was following the project 2025 playbook to destroy America for Putin, was somehow your best choice ?

          Honestly, I have run out of patience with people who try to frame it trump somehow being their best choice of terrible options.

          I guess the only way to get through to you was to let him win so you could see it for yourself.

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          Why do you think a billionaire elite would even care about the working man, let alone make the world a better place for them? That kind of world wouldn’t allow them to be a billionaire in the first place.

          Also, Trump has shown a lot more dementia than Joe. Even before the elections.

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            What you said goes for all of them. But that’s the idea of having a president, someone who is supposed to be for the people. So what do you do?

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              If you could go back in time would you vote for Harris knowing what you know now?

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        I never thought he was a “good” choice per se, but I live in a very economically deprived state where we all basically suffer here, we just help each other. He made a lot of promises he didn’t keep, and a few were specifically geared towards us. He betrayed a lot of people.

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          You thought the candidate who made 30,573 documented lies during his first term was the guy you could trust to keep his promises ?

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            6 hours ago

            It is what it is, I hate how it’s went but another couple of years and we will be in the same boat again, no matter the party affiliation. Hopefully the next one is able to rebound everything.

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              No rebounding is going to happen for many presidential terms. It’s much easier, and faster, to destroy than to build up. The damage to investment and trade relationships being done, and the dismantling of worker protections and support for industry and job development, is going to take decades to reclaim.

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                This is the really depressing part that people really aren’t understanding. We’ve had bad leadership before, but none that have done this much irreparable damage in such a short amount of time with effects that are making the entire world worse for the foreseeable future. But yeah, Harris would have been the same /s

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                And that’s not even considering all the skilled government workers who have been fired and won’t be coming back in 2028. Or the loss of reputation internationally, or the loss of business from companies who have made alternative arrangements and are no longer doing business with the US

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              I think community organizing is the key. Whether it is direct participation, or supporting local/independent initiatives, or trying to influence the established parties in your area. The bad actors thrive on division, misinformation, inaction, and apathy. And the common refrain is that people don’t have the resources, time or bandwidth to educate themselves or to contribute. More people need to see the redistribution of wealth upwards as a form of control. Measures that erode workers rights, equality, etc. further disempowers anyone not in the upper echelons [even those in the upper class but not in the ruling class]. We need to be willing to make sacrifices/concessions if it will benefit those with fewer advantages than ourselves specifically because they make up the foundations that allow us to exist as high up the chain as we currently are [even if that doesn’t feel very high]