The slop beside… What’s the point of throwing your students out a of class if they hadn’t done the prepwork? In principle It’s their personal learning that suffers there and at college/uni level you have to take responsibility for your own learning. if you don’t you fail. It’s not the professors job to enforce everybody’s personal work morale outside of grading.
If this something set out as mandatory for passing course, then fine, tough shit for students. I’m like almost imagining that the lecturer is punishing them or making an example of them as if they were a bunch of 12yo kids not doing their AI-slop homework and therefore disrespecting her authority. If they actually lacked the prerequisite knowledge to take part in discussion then they could have at least listened others speak and her maybe teach? No prepwork can be so important that the subject is totally incomprehensible if you don’t do your AI-slop prep.
Tbh I don’t know jack about American uni/college teaching culture or mybe enough of this case, but this sounds fucked.
Yeah, that’s how we do college here too. If a student wants to fuck around and fail, that’s on them. Throwing people out who aren’t disruptive is weird
Depends on what you consider disruptive. Are they breaking into groups and expected to complete a project based on that prep work? Whatever group gets saddled with them is now poorer for it as compared to ejecting them from the class and grouping only people who put in the work to be present and ready. The in between here would be putting them all in the same useless kids table group, but that somehow seems more demeaning.
Like I said that’s almost more demeaning than being kicked out of class. And I was just spit balling one possible way it could be disruptive. Maybe the class plan was not so easily sequestered, I don’t know. Either way, there’s arguably some value to being strict on this educationally too. It shows that not everyone is going to put up with you showing up uninformed and unprepared. Is it the professors job to teach that? Arguably no, but it is her class, and if in the syllabus she stipulated that you have to show up prepared or be asked to leave then let this be a lesson in reading the contract and taking it seriously.
The slop beside… What’s the point of throwing your students out a of class if they hadn’t done the prepwork? In principle It’s their personal learning that suffers there and at college/uni level you have to take responsibility for your own learning. if you don’t you fail. It’s not the professors job to enforce everybody’s personal work morale outside of grading. If this something set out as mandatory for passing course, then fine, tough shit for students. I’m like almost imagining that the lecturer is punishing them or making an example of them as if they were a bunch of 12yo kids not doing their AI-slop homework and therefore disrespecting her authority. If they actually lacked the prerequisite knowledge to take part in discussion then they could have at least listened others speak and her maybe teach? No prepwork can be so important that the subject is totally incomprehensible if you don’t do your AI-slop prep.
Tbh I don’t know jack about American uni/college teaching culture or mybe enough of this case, but this sounds fucked.
Yeah, that’s how we do college here too. If a student wants to fuck around and fail, that’s on them. Throwing people out who aren’t disruptive is weird
Depends on what you consider disruptive. Are they breaking into groups and expected to complete a project based on that prep work? Whatever group gets saddled with them is now poorer for it as compared to ejecting them from the class and grouping only people who put in the work to be present and ready. The in between here would be putting them all in the same useless kids table group, but that somehow seems more demeaning.
put them in a group together ez
Like I said that’s almost more demeaning than being kicked out of class. And I was just spit balling one possible way it could be disruptive. Maybe the class plan was not so easily sequestered, I don’t know. Either way, there’s arguably some value to being strict on this educationally too. It shows that not everyone is going to put up with you showing up uninformed and unprepared. Is it the professors job to teach that? Arguably no, but it is her class, and if in the syllabus she stipulated that you have to show up prepared or be asked to leave then let this be a lesson in reading the contract and taking it seriously.
She cannot take the risk that they might succeed in the class and invalidate her faith in AI.
Yeah, I remember back in uni being told that if you could show up, you should show up, regardless of what you’d done or how hungover you were.
I’ve still got a first-day newspaper from back then, and it literally says GO TO CLASS on it, lol