“My mom lives paycheck to paycheck and if the AC breaks down in the summer and you can’t afford to fix it, you will die here. My dad proves that.”
Richest country in the world.
They say.
Sure. Problem is, that wealth isn’t spread out.
I think that was the point?
It’s obvious to you and me it seems but people still learn about it for the first time everyday. Whether it’s a kid with their first smart phone or someone who was just lucky enough to live in ignorant bliss in their own life for years until one day they start to see things around them that they didn’t notice before. Their reality slipping away sluggishly and painfully, the America they pledged allegiance to was no longer there, no it was never there. It was lies, it was indoctrination, it was the insecurities made malice by powerful phobic cowards seeping down upon the masses, poisoning them and everything around them.
Hmm, true, good point. Sad point, but good point.
It is surprising how quickly it can hit though. I had an AC unit break on me a 95 degree night while we were all sleeping. Woke up feeling like my whole body was melting and all the water had been drained. The animals took it way worse and were pretty lethargic for a few hours while we cooled them off
My friend in Vegas said it’s relatively common to have two a/c units so you have a backup. Is that a thing in AZ?
Multiple units are common for a large house. Not because they want a backup but because there are limits to how many square feet a single home unit can handle. Having a 2nd story or basement can influence the decision too. It’s often cheaper to put in two home units vs upgrading to a large industrial size like what a store might use.
Obviously if you have 2 then one is a backup when you have a problem, but most people aren’t going to have that.
Multiple units is usually a matter of cubic feet, not backups. A single unit can only cool so much air, so larger houses often need multiple units to achieve enough cooling. It could also be an area control thing, like maybe the upstairs unit is separate from downstairs, so you can cool upstairs even when downstairs is already cool. Because hot air rises, so upstairs tends to be warmer.
Not at all
Arizona is fucking crazy
Drill baby drill.
which way did they vote, though? I don’t really care about them if they voted for this stuff to happen
I’m pretty sure the extreme obesity was the cause of death
Contributing factor for sure, but not primary cause.
No, as “hateful” as it sounds… I’d say primary cause as well. Nothing stopped them from walking to their neighbors house and asking them if they could stick it out there for a bit since their A/C went out… Well… except for the walking part.
They had family coming and checking on him regularly. If he wasn’t so fat that he couldn’t get out of bed, he’d have just gone to their house… No? Clearly they cared. They installed a window A/C.
Inaction over the course of 2 days is was killed this man, the cause of inaction was his weight. His family obviously determined that they couldn’t move him… and he couldn’t move himself.
Edit: To the point, I also live in AZ. I have a really big solar install that lets me run my house off grid and islanded (with many hours of battery as well). I’ve told my neighbors they should come over during outages. People understand what A/C means here in this state. This family shouldn’t have been blind-sided by the problem. It would have been his inability to get out of bed that limited options.
I don’t want to get into it too much, but consider this analogy: let’s say a person is tied to a chair wired with a bomb. The bomb explodes, and they die. What killed them? Personally, I’d say it was the bomb, not the rope or chair.
I reject the analogy. I’ve already stated the options any normal person would have had that would have kept them alive… and those options are quite simple of “walk to the neighbor’s house”.
Once again, I’m GOING to sound hateful, even though I harbor no actual hate (do what you want with your life… but there’s consequences to everything). I speak this from a place of being overweight myself. You can’t let it get to this point. I personally don’t get the stupid signal from my stomach that I’m actually full. My brain tells me all the fucking time that I’m hungry even though I’m not. I get the problem though I’ve never been this far down the road myself.
It’s even worse in this case as it’s well understood that fat people hold heat longer. The fat acts as a literal barrier to shedding heat. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30454605/
With your argument… since being fat in of itself is never on a death certificate, it’s impossible to die for being fat. It’s always cardio issues, diabetes, kidney, or airway issues… That’s nonsense. Those issues existed because of the persons obesity. Why would this situation be any different than the others?
Edit: Calling 911 would have also been an option once he started overheating… So I also have to wonder about the family members part of the situation. And his own inability to dial 3 digits on his phone as well.
Once again, I’m GOING to sound hateful, even though I harbor no actual hate
Yeah, you do. Judgementalism is hateful.
How about you sit down and really consider your own fallibilities, weaknesses and self-centredness before pointing fingers at anyone else.
I speak this from a place of being overweight myself. You can’t let it get to this point. I personally don’t get the stupid signal from my stomach that I’m actually full. My brain tells me all the fucking time that I’m hungry even though I’m not. I get the problem though I’ve never been this far down the road myself.
Since you apparently are unable to read, I’ll repost this portion of my comment just for you.
I’m 100% aware of my own problems and am dealing with them.
I would highly suggest you work on your reading skills before pointing fingers of your own next time.
This is kind of a weak response that doesn’t address any of the actual points made and yet itself judgementally points moral fingers around. Calling someone a bad (and non-self-aware?) person is not a good way to prove them wrong.
we need a goodwins law for hating on fat people because it is inevitable there’s gonna be at least one person who ‘harbors no actual hate’ but ‘insert stupid here’
That’s quite interesting respond… The next part after “harbor no actual hate” is me talking about my own weight issues.
Apparently the qualifier of my own issues is “insert stupid here”.
Are you actually going to add something to the discussion? Address any of the points? Or just be judgmental yourself?
self hate is often the root
the biggest homophobes I’ve ever met was a gay couple in Alabama
I just want to point something out since it hasn’t been said.
When it’s so hot that your body is shutting down, you’ve already been well past the point of being able to think straight and make critical judgements.
Obesity aside, many people would fail to seek help not realizing they’re in a life of death situation to begin with. You’re so hot you must find yourself sitting or lying down unable to do jack shit. Need thing you know you’re dying of heat stroke. And sadly, we’re going to see this more and more as climate change kills more people.
Doesn’t paint him in a very good picture. Morbidly obese and likes to play videogames with their 6 animals while his wife worked 3 jobs.
You should do a fortnite dance on his grave. That’ll teach him.
I’ll just stick the the ol Halo t bag.
Obviously not. The cause of death was overheating.
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Morbid obesity was the underlying cause of death
No one else died, honey. Immediate cause and underlying cause (root cause) are different, and important. If they had not been morbidly obese, they would not have died.
The death certificate likely includes both obesity and heat stroke.
Go back to whatever <lame insult> you came from.
