• CyborgMarx [any, any]@hexbear.net
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    If electoralism was viable in Czarist Russia, it’s viable now

    It’s a tool, it can work for us (Zohran) or against us (Bernie/Sander)

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      The marxist strategy for electoralist entryism, was to form our own working class parties and use the electoral pulpit to spread socialist ideas.

      It never succeeded in actually electing candidates and turning any state based on bourgeios parliamentarism, into a socialist one, in any country.

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        The Marxist Leninist strategy is to elect socdems to power WHO WE CAN OVERTHROW

        We need soft liberals in power WHO HESITATE at the crucial moment the socialists strike, liberals who are allergic to exercising power and violence, who bend the knee to growing worker power and don’t realize the danger they’re in until it too late

        That is when socialism explodes onto the national stage

        In marxism electoralism is a strategy of maneuvers and positioning, not transformation or “evolution” like the old and new socdems claim

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            Because German socialists capitulated to the SPD and not the other way around, which allowed liberals who were not allergic to violence to take power

            The Germans mistook the SPD for a transformative workers party instead of something that had to be maneuvered into place and supplanted

            Ironically the SPD flipped the script on the socialists and out-maneuvered them to their doom

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      There are always more factors at play than elections when big shake ups happen in any government. It’s like how democrats love taking credit for grassroots leftism just because they perceived themselves to be “the left” and can’t recognize that others are farther to the left than Bernie sanders.

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        They can only get away with it becuase the American left is fragmented and underground, it can’t emerge above ground to challenge the dems until it locks down the electoral game with a third party, the left can’t develop a third party if it’s most radical wing refuses to take electoralism seriously