• Esoteir [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    2 months ago

    okay im reading them again, you said that workers are simply not a prominent theme in solar-punk after calling four solar-punk images credible examples of labourers being prominent in solar-punk art, yes?

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      2 months ago

      That’s correct, the bulk of solar-punk themed art is not focused on the workers. What you did is cherry picking a handful of images that don’t paint a representative picture of the common themes in solar-punk art.

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        2 months ago

        so you don’t consider it cherry picking when you post some of the soviet sci-fi art that isn’t landscape art, but it is cherry picking when i do it in response?

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          2 months ago

          No, I don’t consider it cherry picking because that theme is prevalent in Soviet art, including sci-fi themed art. It’s very clearly not prevalent in solar-punk art. I love how you’re just not capable of admitting this basic fact.

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            2 months ago

            the basic fact you posted two examples of soviet sci-fi with prominent labourers and i posted four credible examples of the much younger solar-punk art movement with prominent labourers?

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              2 months ago

              if you believe that the examples are equally representative of each respective style then I don’t really know what else to tell you here

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                2 months ago

                so considering the soviet sci-fi art movement when the USSR dissolved was about six times older than solar-punk as an art movement is now, proportionally you would need to post roughly twenty two more examples of labourer-focused soviet sci-fi art to meet the same level of representation of the four credible examples of labourer-focused solar-punk art

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                  2 months ago

                  The thing is that the Soviet sci-fi art movement was a subset of socialist art that was produced in USSR. My whole critique here has been that solar-punk offers a very narrow view of society largely focused on empty aesthetic. For example, if the dispossessed is truly the basis for the movement as you claim it to be, then why does the art produced by the movement not explore all aspects of the society envisioned in the book? Why does it not create a believable and holistic vision of the future being promoted?

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                    2 months ago

                    the dispossessed is more like a thematic foundation for solar-punk, the ecologically sustainable anarcho-syndicalism is explored in new ways, in the same way that most cyberpunk media doesn’t exactly mirror neuromancer or explore all aspects of that particular society (albeit cyberpunk being a capitalist-realist cry for help for an incoming doom that came and went, and solar-punk being more of an ecological/sociological example of what could be)