• smokeppb [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Holy toledo

    But this is more shocking to me, the OLDER Dems are with the younger dems on disliking Israel, and only the older Republicans are still under 50% dislike

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      Completely anecdotal, but even my lib mid 70s parents explicitly do not like israel. Of course they dont like “HAMAS” either, but they put the blame of all of this on Israel. And these are old former “independent” voters lol

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          The more exposure Zionists get, the more normal people dislike them. Israel was much better off taking the free weapons in silence. Now everything is about them, and everyone is being called antisemitic. The gentiles are tired!

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            normies are taking the intellectually lazy and safe position of “I don’t like Hamas or Israel, they should have peace already” and being called anti-semites for it. No better way to alienate them and force them into the pro-Palestine camp than the vicious demands for complete loyalty the zionists enforce.

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            Their previous assaults on Gaza lasted only a few weeks, and once they started getting heat for it and enough eyes were on them, they cut that shit out. Then went back to their low-intensity genocide that could be easily ignored by the world.

            Now that the Kahanists are in the Knesset they can no longer resist their bloodlust. Nobody on planet Earth (barring uncontacted Amazon tribes or whatever) is currently unaware of what’s been happening in Gaza for the last 1.5 years.

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      I know a lot of people who vote Republican. None of them under 45 support Israel. Older than that, it’s all racists and Christian Zionists.

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        For even the most cynical treatlerites, it really does just boil down to “what have you done for ME lately?” From a naive perspective, Israel is nothing but a liability. From a critical perspective, Israel is nothing but a liability. To the institutionalist, “rule of law” liberals, Israel is nothing but a liability. To the “America First” nationalists, Israel is nothing but a liability. The only people who see merit in the cause of Israel are total cranks and zealots who truly believe the US or Israel (depending on who you ask) are ordained by God (and their secular cousins, the Atlanticists - the fundamentalists of American civic religion), who look forward to dying in a nuclear inferno on that hill. There are a lot of them though.

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        Those Christian Zionists all have a persecution fetish. They think they’re being persecuted as they’re actively building concentration camps for their enemies.

        I say we give them what they want so badly. Let’s give them the persecution they so desperately want. Let’s start feeding Christians to lions again.