he pratices deepthroating putin alot.
Fuck AI. Fuck Trump. Fucking love Fransisco de Goya.
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If we ever have another elected president, I hope that one of their first acts after undoing literally everything that the orange menace has done is to replace every picture of trump in any government building with this.
Gonna need fundamental change to make the president less powerful and make it so that no one party ever holds a majority in Congress ever again. The first would follow the second, so we should be pushing for something like Sequential Proportional Approval Voting for every legislature we got.
Start with reforming the ways your elections are held. To the rest of the world it seems like a 250 years old system to keep those with money in power. I thought the american revolution was held to get lost of a king and his henchmen?
You’re going to have to get more specific if you want a response beyond “yeah man, it is 250 years old.”
This is based on Goya’s famous painting “Saturn Devouring His Son”, if anyone was wondering.
Imo in this original painting Saturn is horrified either to be doing this at all, or to be seen doing it.
So I don’t think the poetry transfers to trump here.
I know this is shit posts but we’re also discussing high art so…
It’s hard to say for sure. I always interpreted his expression as maniacal rather than horrified.
Yeah I’ve heard few different intersting takes. I think most people agree the expression is mechanical like you said.
This is just my impression. It’s the lighting more than anything that makes me feel this way. The painting seems to be illuminating the devourer in a way that suggests he might be seeing his own act for the first time himself.
He certainly wasn’t horrified about doing it in the original myth, as far as I remember.
Yeah, I’ve always seen Goya’s version (if this is even Saturn at all) to be an inversion or some kind of commentary on the original theme. There are a few famous paintings of this scene from before Goya’s time.
If anything it feels to me that Saturn was in the darkness doing this act but now there is a bright and sudden light being shown on him and he is shocked or ashamed. Almost like he has possibly “snapped out” of the state he was just in and is now maybe seeing what he has done for the first time himself.
Edit: wrong thread.
Considering he ate FIVE of his children, I don’t think he was.
One of my favorites. I wish we knew if that’s really what he intended to depict - people just guessed.
Yeah he didn’t even actually name this painting. We really don’t know who the subjects are for sure.
4 feet tall and painted directly onto the wall of his dining room, too. My kinda guy.
I dunno, I think that’s part of the magic of the Black Paintings. To me, what makes them truly unsettling (in the best way) is the fact that he painted them exclusively for his own desire and that we’re limited to guessing the subject matter (which, although ambiguous, was undoubtedly dark).
kolpeshtheyardstick made a pretty great video essay about the work and its historical context and cultural impact. (01:04:19)
I never heard about how it was made before and that really changed how I view the work.
Thanks, I’ll listen to this on the commute home.
Insanity created some of the most definitely gothic images ever. Goya is so slept on. I’m especially partial to his etchings
The political prints about Spain and Spanish politics are particularly interesting to me
True, I just always want to know the facts about everything, no matter how insignificant, for historical posterity and my own curiosity.
Part of this art is that there really are no “facts”. It was painted on the wall of his home some time before his death but wasn’t found before he died. He never gave it a name or said anything about it.
There are facts, they just went with him to his grave.
Fair point. I guess it would be better to say that there isn’t much to learn about in terms of hard facts.
Damn don’t do Cronos like that
Our nation not his.
Prove it. It’s not mine.
Well…
This is a really good reference to classical Roman mythology. Something that the US government usually appreciates.
It’s a reference to Goya a Spanish painter.we don’t really know if this painting was about chronos, that’s a theory.
they were roommates
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_Devouring_His_Son
Huh, neat. I tend to believe it is anyways with that previous sketch and simply belonging under the umbrella of Romanticism but there’s some solid points there against it.
Just the point that the buttocks are too round to fit a typical male depiction is pretty compelling.
Just worth pointing out: three of the five children eaten by Saturn(Cronus)were women, and the very first was Vesta(Hestia).
Who painted this? I want to buy this painting.
Quite likely their initials are A.I.
Indeed they are.
Trump wouldn’t eat the flag, he’d use it to wipe his shit
On the other hand, he’s well known for eating things he wants to hide. He eats notes after meetings.
I would be surprised if he hasn’t had someone redesign the US flag for him, based on his ‘vision’. So eating the flag to hide it is totally on brand.
why do you think he’s eating it?
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Nah, he uses the constitution for that.
Only if it’s a gilded flag.
I’m sure there are quite a few people that would love to see him choke on a flag.
I think a lot of alcohol poisonings will happen on the day he dies.
Another, yes.
I’ve turned into a bit of a whiskey maniac since my visit to Ireland last March and enjoyed it more than I thought.
I’d watch that Seven death a lot.
Yes
art is lies that reveal the truth
-some artist
Maybe you’re thinking Alan Moore in V for Vendetta?
Artists use lies to tell the truth, while politicians use them to cover the truth up.
Definitely didn’t originate with Alan Moore. I’ve seen it attributed to Pablo Picasso but I think the first is probably Aristotle.
I was actually expecting it wasn’t him and was hoping that I would find the original when I searched it but he was the only one that showed up - for my query at least. Thanks for the extra info!
Cunningham’s Law:
The best way to get the right answer on the internet is not to ask a question; it’s to post the wrong answer.
Is there an artist or is this AI?
Ai, it’s a parody of a famous painting “Saturn devouring his son”.
I’m actually grateful that it is. I’d hate to think a human spent time on this. Imagine the psychological damage.
Pastiche, actually.
No, a pastiche would be in the same style. This one is more like Goya by way of Norman Rockwell.
If you assume ai has artistic intent then sure I suppose.
That would apply to parody too though. So what is it, scrambled art en croute?
My understanding is pastiche is a homage, a parody can be as little as “this look sorta like that”. Imo pastiche would require intent and I’m not so sure an ai has intent.
AI
I’ll let it slide. This time…
I am a happy /c/fuckai subscriber and I am still comfortable admitting that image generators can be great for memes and quick jokes.
Agreed, it is pretty spot on. Capturing the originals vacant stare is what makes it.
The hand is pretty good for AI.
The top finger kinda gives it away imo
Knuckle too long, yeah, but a human artist could made that mistake too. Probably not one capable of painting that face, I suppose.
